Sorry 35* is at about 1500 rpm, 27* idle, 16*wot and 11* when its trying to stop 5*kr... so what ur sayin blue is that I could have a vac leak causing me to lean out ultimately causing my kr??? And are my timing readings safe for my mods I have no kr till wot and its only an overkill tune for my 3.4, headers,intake, egr and rear o2 delete... haven't quite tuned for the rr's yet but I had the same problem before I put those in... oh and this thread got posted twice could u delete the the other one please...