How Much should a 3" produce

**Tuner-Extraordinaire** · 02-27-2012

3" MPS, Rockers, Headers, Not blown up yet?

Either hosed blower or RICH AFR

**AmericanSoldier** · 02-27-2012

how much timing and whats the AFR? we need a scan to really determine everything

**Bio248** · 02-27-2012

Originally Posted by copgtp

Omg but how could it be? It goes against the Gospel....aka the safely modding thread!

This must be like when they figures out the world was round for you guys....mind blowing.

Sent using my bionic thumbs from my sweet DROID Razr Maxx

you calm down with that. you're the only one that thinks we tell people to follow that like a bible.

**Rudd97gtp** · 02-28-2012

Ok well I will do some pulls with it and read the aeroforce now that I have something Wht to look for. Wht should I look for on some of the other perimeters. And Whts up with the net horsepower setting? The thing hit something like 534?? I that's not happening cause my stock 3 cyl geo metro don't even have that kinda horses it's only building 49 lol

**Rudd97gtp** · 02-28-2012

There she is lol

**Rudd97gtp** · 02-28-2012

Will I can till it runs richer then sh!t has alot of black sot from the pipes. So I will get back to u guys on Wht the aeroforce

**Rudd97gtp** · 02-28-2012

Why is it that most everyone on here ass holes on this form? I have been apart of a few different forums and the attitude on here sucks!!!!!! This is a place to learn and and find more knowledge and meet some good people. Most don't kno how to answer a ? With out running there gums!!

**matt5112** · 02-28-2012

Originally Posted by Rudd97gtp

Why is it that most everyone on here ass holes on this form? I have been apart of a few different forums and the attitude on here sucks!!!!!! This is a place to learn and and find more knowledge and meet some good people. Most don't kno how to answer a ? With out running there gums!!

What is the basis for this post?

**Rudd97gtp** · 02-28-2012

It's just the general attitude of most people on the forum. I seem to think it may be a smaller pulley then needed, but help me figure out where to go. Its great when people give advise but it sucks when they belittle people. It seems to be habit on here

**darkhorizon** · 02-28-2012

lol bro, its been very clear that people want to know some facts before they make suggestions here... The trick is you said you have no KR, and it makes a bit less boost than other cars would... so we are pretty sure we know whats going on, but we asked for more info that you have not provided.

What is the issue?

**Bio248** · 02-28-2012

you should pulley up to like a 3.4" and get another tune. the car is either drowning in fuel and/or running low timing.

the car will feel much faster with a better fuel/timing setup.

**mechguy** · 02-28-2012

I cannot respond due to grammar and spelling nuances.

**Rudd97gtp** · 02-28-2012

I'm not upset or anything. I understand totally! I work at a parts store and people say it's running rough what could it be?? Trust me I understand. But it seems alot of people chime in with a snood remark and no advice. I guess will just have to ignore there post. I plan on doing some pulled tonight and readin my aeroforce

**blueguy** · 02-28-2012

Cop's upset he can't run this site like he does on CGP.

I fixed my Safely Modding thread and added his liking of scanning before modding and he still finds a way to complain, Rudd, you have the option to hit the ignore button and not see any of his posts...it seems to be a nice feature IMO.

For your car, I'd set the Aero to Ignition Advance and KR...see what numbers it is producing...I'm betting low timing, rich AFR...like everyone else. Which isn't good...motor is drowning in fuel, fouling plugs/bumming o2's (which could be the cause of it running rough as well...and lower than stock timing causes high EGT's (Exhaust Gas Temps)...which can obviously melt things in the engine bay, along with frying o2's, and even burning valves.

**Rudd97gtp** · 02-28-2012

Well who tunes near southern Indiana?

**blueguy** · 02-28-2012

Paul @ PRJ Performance.

**copgtp** · 02-28-2012

Originally Posted by bluegtp91

Cop's upset he can't run this site like he does on CGP.

I fixed my Safely Modding thread and added his liking of scanning before modding and he still finds a way to complain, Rudd, you have the option to hit the ignore button and not see any of his posts...it seems to be a nice feature IMO.

GFY dude, their are at least 3 other posts in this thread that busted on this guy.

OP, pull your spark plugs and take a picture of them. Everyone here talks in a different tuning language sometimes and they forget how much information can be taken from the appearance of a spark plug.

**Bio248** · 02-28-2012

you know how many people can actually read a spark plug nowadays?

**copgtp** · 02-28-2012

Originally Posted by Bio248

you know how many people can actually read a spark plug nowadays?

Do you know how many newbs know what AFR, EGT's or advanced timing is?

Pretty easy for him to pull the plugs, take some pictures, post them, then the helpful staff here at GPF could say "hey look, you're plugs look like they are running rich, that means you're car is probably doing Y, and could be resolved by changing the values in Z"