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    Hi everyone

    It's some time ago that i ask some questions regarding a engine rebuild form people that now were they are talking about (this is the place)
    And now that i finely got the stuff i orderd from ZZP like.

    1xRollmaster timing set Model: Double

    1xValve Seals Option 1:Set of 12

    1xEngine gasket kit Engine:L67 Option 1:add Felpro head gaskets

    1xValve Spring Retainers Model:Modified steel

    1xFront cover gasket Model:standard paper

    1xThermostats Model:180

    1xClevite 77 Bearings Option 1:Main bearings (standard)

    1xClevite 77 Bearings Option 1:Rod bearings (standard)

    1xPiston rings Size:standard bore rings

    1xCrow Cams valve springs Model:130 lb CrowSprings

    1xX-P HOT Cam

    1xARP Head Studs for the 3800 Option 1:standard 6 point nuts 193-4001

    1xSupercharger Coupler

    1xEaton Rebuild Parts Model:M90 Option 1:Seal + snout and needle bearings

    1xZZP Modular Pulley System Size:3.0 Color:Clear

    1xHydraulic Roller Lifters By Competition Cams Model:OE-R 875


    I send my blok to a shop to check and if needed do boring/honing on the cylinders.Got the engine 1 week later back and it looked real nice.
    now i started to rebuild the engine and find out that the most bolts are Torque to yield ,and can't use the old bolts

    What is the best way to. Do i need to use new stock replace bolts or
    Order the arp main studs bolts with the arp connecting rod bolts
    The thing is on the site of ZZP there is a text quote Block line boring is recommended after the install of main studs / Machine shop work on the rods is required when changing the rod bolts to avoid spinning a bearing
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    I think i needed to take Ã* other title saying ARP bolts
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    No, you are fine.

    Yes you want a machine shop to assemble the bottom end. Whether you use stock new bolts or ARP. There are issues that arise when assembling that make parts no longer true and the motor dies quickly if it's not done correctly.

    I believe Reptile has a set of bolts for the bottom end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    No, you are fine.

    Yes you want a machine shop to assemble the bottom end. Whether you use stock new bolts or ARP. There are issues that arise when assembling that make parts no longer true and the motor dies quickly if it's not done correctly.

    I believe Reptile has a set of bolts for the bottom end.
    Reptile has ARP Rod Bolts...but that's it.
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    Indeed I do, but I couldn't begin to guess how much it would cost to ship them to you.
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    First of all thanks for the reply's

    the APR main studs are not the only thing i needed

    this is what i need to

    ARP Main Studs for the 3800 $49.99
    ARP Connecting Rod Bolts Model:Series II $99.99
    Camshaft bolt $5.99
    Crankshaft bolt $12.99
    Comp Cams re-usable rocker bolts $19.99

    and the costs for shipping this to me is
    Express Mail<sup>®</sup> International (1 X 6.75 lbs) $64.25
    and if i take of the main studs from the order the price still stay the same for shipping it to me.
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    Nice looking build. Take allot of pics and post as you build.
    Lambokit to be built!!!!!
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    When i got al the parts i need i wil take picture's of the build
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    made a altenator bracket



    need to find a other oil filter adapter this one wont fit ,i need one that goes up or goes next to the balancer



    needs some work















    this are some of the picture's of me taken it apart
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    double post ??
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    Well I ordered the other things I need for now and won't be the last things I need .
    I contact the machine shop who will do the line bore it will cost me 250 euro +/- 375 dollar I hope to be there when they work on the engine and film it
    So now I will rebuild the charger and port the LIM and heads , but bevore I do do u got tips in what to do and what not to do thanks
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    I was told just to smooth up the runners in the heads and not to take out too much material. as far as the intake and S/C, if you are planning on running a S/C. see attached.

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    Also, if you want to do a front brake upgrade if your Fiero is 84-87 you can take the font brake hubs off turn them down on a lathe to fit Grand-AM brake rotors and calipers. And if you have a drill press you can cross drill the standard rotors and save allot of $$$.





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    Did you find an oil filter adapter?

    96-99 Bonneville, Park ave, Riviera would have one that tucks under the balancer up by the oil pan angle.
    2000+ of those same cars would tuck under by the oil pan side
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    i think it's a bit off topic but i did do my front brake setup i used subaru impreza front brake rotors and calipers made my own adapter mount @ work.

    I only need to find a way to do the rear with the park brake and all

    here are some picture's and movie's











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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    Did you find an oil filter adapter?

    96-99 Bonneville, Park ave, Riviera would have one that tucks under the balancer up by the oil pan angle.
    2000+ of those same cars would tuck under by the oil pan side

    no i need to find one .The one i got won't fit it will hit the sub frame of the engine

    if someone got one laying around let me know
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    I might. Lemme see about getting you some pics so you can tell if it looks good or not.

    96-99 Bonneville


    2000-05 Bonneville
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    If I want that type I need a other oil pan
    But that looks great
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    the 96-99 I don't have a good pic on it. But it uses the standard steel pan and tucks up under the balancer.
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    I need to check my oil pan and make a pic of it so u can see it
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