Yeah, even though many people run the zzp pcm and dhp pcm It is far from the best thing. Now you have to take into consideration that i have a tuner and my opinion may be a little biased lol. I guess look at it like this. If you are going to mod your car and know what you want and probably wont change it after you do so. then you may want to look into an overkill pcm (the better one). they are more expensive around 300 i think. but can be reprogrammed for a small fee if you do change your mods. But I look at it his way. you can get the hp tuner for 500 and it use it an unlimited amount of times on your car plus it comes with a scanner (no need for a scan gauge). so it is cheaper to go with the hp tuner.I know i made the right choice but that doesent mean it's right for you. you just have to figure out what you want to do with the car and how far you want to go into modding it.