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    Just bought a 2004 Grand Prix Gtp Comp G but many problems.. First off, I bought it cause it was cheap, it got side swiped and took off the right side mirror and front bumper. I replaced the mirror but cannot find the front bumper anywhere! Someone wanted to charge me 600$ -__-. The car is in good shape otherwise.. but...

    First off, the car is over heating,(ill attach a photo) it gets up to the 3rd long line plus one. So basically 4 lines away from the red zone. It has not gone into the red zone yet though. I have changed the car's thermostat but that has not changed anything. The car's sunroof is hiccuping, works sometimes, but other times it hiccups and I have to keep pressing the button to get it to close. The air condition turns on and off when I hit a bump which is so annoying cause its soo hot now. There is a weird hydraulic sound in the suspensions.(I don't know if that is normal or not).

    NOW the worst part about this car.....

    This car is said to achieve 22-28 mpg, highway and city. I would be happy to even get 20 mpg....
    This car is only getting 9-13 mpg!! That is outrageous. That is the only reason why I would sell it. I can't afford that much gas everytime =/.
    So I got a full tune-up with the brakes changed and the freakin' guy charged me 600$ which sucked. What sucks even more is that the full tune up (air filter, fuel filter, oil change, radiator flush, spark plugs, and wires.) did not change anything!! The cars MPG is still the same.

    I am desperate to fix all of this. I don't know what is normal what is not and what to change now before this car gets worse. I don't know how to fix these problems. If anyone can help please let me know!! I am getting helpless. No mechanic wants to help or knows what they are doing. Thanks in advance!!
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    The car is a supercharger and has 95000 miles on it.
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    try bleeding the coolant system. It sounds like there is still a bunch of air in it and thats causing it to run hot.

    As for fuel mileage, since the air filter and plugs and wires were done. I want you to try and clean the MAF with maf cleaner and I would prolly change the front o2 sensor.

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    How do you bleed the coolant system? And how do you clean the MAF? All the mechanics I go to are no help. They have absolutely no idea what they are doing.




    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    try bleeding the coolant system. It sounds like there is still a bunch of air in it and thats causing it to run hot.

    As for fuel mileage, since the air filter and plugs and wires were done. I want you to try and clean the MAF with maf cleaner and I would prolly change the front o2 sensor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThingaMagid View Post
    How do you bleed the coolant system? And how do you clean the MAF? All the mechanics I go to are no help. They have absolutely no idea what they are doing.
    run the car from cold till warm, leave the radiator cap off,(wait for the fan to come on) follow the top rad hose to the engine, on top of the thermostat there a brass screw, open it up a few tuns when the bubbles stop and a steady stream of coolant comes out, its done, tighten the screw up, fill rad, and cap it.

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    That sounds easy, I am going to try that. Thanks so much for the help.




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    run the car from cold till warm, leave the radiator cap off,(wait for the fan to come on) follow the top rad hose to the engine, on top of the thermostat there a brass screw, open it up a few tuns when the bubbles stop and a steady stream of coolant comes out, its done, tighten the screw up, fill rad, and cap it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    try bleeding the coolant system. It sounds like there is still a bunch of air in it and thats causing it to run hot.

    As for fuel mileage, since the air filter and plugs and wires were done. I want you to try and clean the MAF with maf cleaner and I would prolly change the front o2 sensor.
    o2 sensors ain't cheap. clean the MAF first. since you've been having a mechanic do work, here's what you do.

    Buy:



    Get access to the object on the far right with wires going to it



    and spray according to direction on can.

    Note: take it out of the car, don't spray it into your intake lol
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    That sounds like a good idea. I am going to try that.





    Quote Originally Posted by ZR1Vette09 View Post
    o2 sensors ain't cheap. clean the MAF first. since you've been having a mechanic do work, here's what you do.

    Buy:



    Get access to the object on the far right with wires going to it



    and spray according to direction on can.

    Note: take it out of the car, don't spray it into your intake lol
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    Some guy said the car was overheating because of my water pump, but I did not trust him. Could this be true?


    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    try bleeding the coolant system. It sounds like there is still a bunch of air in it and thats causing it to run hot.

    As for fuel mileage, since the air filter and plugs and wires were done. I want you to try and clean the MAF with maf cleaner and I would prolly change the front o2 sensor.
    Is there a way to know when you need to change the lower intake gasket?


    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoggs View Post
    are you losing coolant with out seeing a leak?

    you may be due for a lower intake gasket, the shops in queens are going to rape you on that one.
    Ok awesome, thanks so much.



    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoggs View Post
    yes air in the engine, the s/c oil needs changing like every 30,000 miles, or so heres a vid how to do it, YouTube - &#x202a;HOW TO CHANGE THE SUPERCHARGER OIL ON A GM 3800 SERIES II V6&#x202c;&rlm; get new oil from a GM dealer only.
    Thanks a lot for the info, it really helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    yes.

    There is a plug on the front of what we call the "snout" which is the part with the pulley on the end, that bolts into two other peices that make up the blower.

    The fluid can be sucked out with a syringe and some tubing.

    Then go to the dealer and ask for two bottles of supercharger fluid.

    fill till its at the bottom of the threads of the plug. (make sure the car is level)

    Gotta take the engine cover to see that though.

    I'd suggest throwing out the engine cover. Just makes things hotter and decreases the life of everything.

    If you're in a bind, Mobil 1 5W-30 is a GM approved temporary solution for southern states all year 'round or summer only in northern states.
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    water pumps work till they leak like mad,(and then they still work) or seize up, so i would say no.

    best way to check the lim is to have the cooling system pressure tested.

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    Is there a way I can check the pressure or do I need a mechanic?

    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoggs View Post
    water pumps work till they leak like mad,(and then they still work) or seize up, so i would say no.

    best way to check the lim is to have the cooling system pressure tested.
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    overheating could be caused by a bubble in the line. do you hear gurgling on takeoff from the passenger floorboard? front bumper, you can check gmpartsdirect.com



    part 1 is 365 bucks.

    sunroof sounds like maybe it could stand to be greased in the tracks

    mpg's could be a number of things. do you see white smoke pour from the exhaust?
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    Is the bubble in the line the same thing as air in the line?



    Quote Originally Posted by ZR1Vette09 View Post
    overheating could be caused by a bubble in the line. do you hear gurgling on takeoff from the passenger floorboard? front bumper, you can check gmpartsdirect.com



    part 1 is 365 bucks.

    sunroof sounds like maybe it could stand to be greased in the tracks

    mpg's could be a number of things. do you see white smoke pour from the exhaust?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThingaMagid View Post
    Is the bubble in the line the same thing as air in the line?
    yes air in the engine, the s/c oil needs changing like every 30,000 miles, or so heres a vid how to do it, YouTube - &#x202a;HOW TO CHANGE THE SUPERCHARGER OIL ON A GM 3800 SERIES II V6&#x202c;&rlm; get new oil from a GM dealer only.

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    gmpartsdirect.com: Alternate GM Catalog

    ^link to bumper information
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    I hear gurgling in the beginning when I take off, but that's about it. And I do see white smoke from the exhaust.
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    are you losing coolant with out seeing a leak?

    you may be due for a lower intake gasket, the shops in queens are going to rape you on that one.

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    How would I know if I have to change it?





    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoggs View Post
    are you losing coolant with out seeing a leak?

    you may be due for a lower intake gasket, the shops in queens are going to rape you on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThingaMagid View Post
    I hear gurgling in the beginning when I take off, but that's about it. And I do see white smoke from the exhaust.
    gurgling means there's air in the system, common issue and easy fix, just bleed the system. white smoke (thick white smoke) means you're running rich aka too much gas going into the engine and not all being burned off, which explains your bad mpgs. since you had a mechanic do the tuneup, i'd say double check the spark plugs, make sure they are gapped correctly and that they aren't saturated with fuel. You can check the gap with this



    probably 2 bucks at your local parts store, just ensure that the space is .060" (IIRC that's the right gap for stock gtp) does the engine feel like it runs rough? cleaning the MAF may help slightly, o2 sensor may also be the culprit but might as well try the cheap and free stuff first
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    i dont want to confuse this guy, but

    white smoke is coolant,

    black smoke is fuel (aka real rich)

    and blue smoke is oil


    no?

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