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    Can i buy a kr gauge to tell me how much kr im at
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    Yes.

    Commonly referred to as a scan gauge.

    Just curious, have you done any research on this stuff before starting this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    Yes.

    Commonly referred to as a scan gauge.

    Just curious, have you done any research on this stuff before starting this thread?
    of course not. that would make sense wouldn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubar569 View Post
    of course not. that would make sense wouldn't it?
    Lawlz.

    This.

    I can't even tell you how many times I've told the guy to at least read my safely modding thread...by his posting its obvious that he wants us to answer every question and build the car for him...which we can't physically do.
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    1.9 rockers/ls6 springs, Headers, and a Street tune. You'll be a very happy person when it's said and done.
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    Don't do any mods and spend the $1,000 on cheap hookers and expensive wine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixon View Post
    1.9 rockers/ls6 springs, Headers, and a Street tune. You'll be a very happy person when it's said and done.
    Rockers are for poons...

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    Don't do any mods and spend the $1,000 on cheap hookers and expensive wine
    CHEAP WINE...and expensive hookers.

    duh
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    Easier than a cam.
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    Ive read your thread 3 times and just dosent answer my questions . It explains but its not a straight forward answer and im very machanicly inclined . I rebuild my motor in my gp and did motor swaps and tranny swaps and such soo im not dumb i just want answers from guys who have experience . Thanks .
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    Because there isn't a straightforward answer. That's just a guideline that happens to be very descriptive of what you want to keep in mind. IMO, get scan gauge, headers, intake, rockers, and tune with a pulley drop. That's what I'd do if I had a grand prix anymore.
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    <brandonl2000> how did she become handicapped?
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    ROCKERS.

    ARE.

    for babies.

    And you'll spend all that money and be left with wanting more.
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    well a 3.4 setup leaves some money left over, we would all like a cam but last I checked it's about 1000 bucks right there for everything you need, in addition to the above mentioned stuff.
    '00 Blazer- Good riddance '06 Grand Prix GT- Dead and Cool '05 Silverado- Sold '96 Jeep Cherokee-DD '97 BMW 328i-Project
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    Wut?

    You can get a gasket kit...for $200...a set of headers for less than $200...and a used XP or S1X for $200 or less...Then new LS6 springs are about 70 bones new...and retainers are no more...so...I've still got some cash left over...it's called SHOPPING around.
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    $700 for a VS cam with all new parts granted you did the install yourself.
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    Well i personally wouldn't go for used engine components. Found my old shopping list thread and I was around $1600 total for headers, cam, tune, pulley, mufflers, shift kit, double roller (not including whatever is needed to be done to the sprocket) and at that Dave said the shift kit would just be to prolong the life of the tranny.
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    pfft double rollers...
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    Don't need a double roller for a small baby cam like teh XP or S1X...waste of money there.
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    '99 Chevrolet Silverado Classic Z71 4x4 - K&N Intake/Gibson Exhaust #TRUCKTHINGS
    '12 Buick Regal Turbo - ZZP CAI/20% Tint/HID's
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    Preventative measures? I like to get stuff done while I'm in there.

    P.S. don't bother me with my non-ported head, I had to consider just getting a valve job done.
    '00 Blazer- Good riddance '06 Grand Prix GT- Dead and Cool '05 Silverado- Sold '96 Jeep Cherokee-DD '97 BMW 328i-Project
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    Serpentine belts
    VIN :

    Size:658 (replaces 660) $25.99 $25.99 ZZP Modular Pulley System
    VIN :

    Size:3.3
    Color:Black $99.99 $99.99 Supercharger Pulley Puller
    VIN :

    Core charge:none $109.99 $109.99 Aeroforce Intercepter scan gauge
    VIN :

    Model:Single gauge
    Option 1:Red display
    Option 2:Black "GTP" face
    Option 3:Silver bezel
    car:PT series $238.99 $238.99 3 pod A-Pillar Gauge Holder 97-02 GP
    VIN :

    Color:Graphite
    Option 1:3 gauge pillar only $49.99 $49.99 O2 sensor
    VIN :

    Year of your car:97-03 3800
    Model:Front $47.99 $47.99 Autolite Spark Plugs
    VIN :

    Model:104 $12.00 $12.00 Alternator Voltage Booster
    VIN :

    Model:Stage 1 $17.99 $17.99 Sub Total: $602.93
    is in my cart . im getting these headers :

    GRAND PRIX/GTP/REGAL/IMPALA/MONTE CARLO HEADER/EXHAUST | eBay

    and this PCM:
    :: Overkill Motorsports ::

    let me know if im missing something. comes out to 1100$ with the shipping for everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by guimond47 View Post
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    Serpentine belts
    VIN :

    Size:658 (replaces 660) $25.99 $25.99 ZZP Modular Pulley System
    VIN :

    Size:3.3
    Color:Black $99.99 $99.99 Supercharger Pulley Puller
    VIN :

    Core charge:none $109.99 $109.99 Aeroforce Intercepter scan gauge
    VIN :

    Model:Single gauge
    Option 1:Red display
    Option 2:Black "GTP" face
    Option 3:Silver bezel
    car:PT series $238.99 $238.99 3 pod A-Pillar Gauge Holder 97-02 GP
    VIN :

    Color:Graphite
    Option 1:3 gauge pillar only $49.99 $49.99 O2 sensor
    VIN :

    Year of your car:97-03 3800
    Model:Front $47.99 $47.99 Autolite Spark Plugs
    VIN :

    Model:104 $12.00 $12.00 Alternator Voltage Booster
    VIN :

    Model:Stage 1 $17.99 $17.99 Sub Total: $602.93
    is in my cart . im getting these headers :

    GRAND PRIX/GTP/REGAL/IMPALA/MONTE CARLO HEADER/EXHAUST | eBay

    and this PCM:
    :: Overkill Motorsports ::

    let me know if im missing something. comes out to 1100$ with the shipping for everything .
    3.3 is too small

    voltage booster is garbage

    if you have an android smartphone check out TORQUE before you blow the money on an aeroforce.

    I found my O2 sensor on amazon by searching specific Denso part number for about 20 less too

    basically your ZZP list is junk besides the puller...

    the headers are a must though and will is one of the more respected tuners so that's ok.

    do the plugs, colder tstat (180), build your own intake, order the headers, check out the possibility of porting your blower, pickup torque and a bluetooth OBDII module for 30 bucks, scan for KR and if safe start dropping pulleys. This will leave you with more than a few bucks to spare and is a safe and proper way to go about modding the car.
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