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06-09-2011
I was wondering if anyone knew if spyder headers were any good..
(yes, I've read the header thread)
they're on the market at a good price, $280.
here's a couple links;
spyders website; Spyder Auto | Pontiac Grand Prix 97-03 Header - Chrome
autopartswarehouse; 1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix Headers - Spyder TS-HE-PGPRIX97-C - Xtune, Stainless steel, 4-1
06-09-2011
There's probably 500 threads on this site about ebay projectors. Are they any good, they're ok at best. They have cheap brackets that break, bouncing problems, severe cross beam, cheap projector lenses, and are overpriced imo.Originally Posted by Xanthous
These are stock style Morimoto retrofitted headlights I make for people. They don't bounce, the brackets dont break, there's minimal cross beam if any, they're actual real bi-xenon projectors with a quality lense, and you only need a single beam H1 hid kit for them. They have a cutoff shield that drops to create a true hi-beam and don't take 2 seperate HID kits like the ebay projectors do. The ebay projectors's hi beam is unfocused as it's not in an actual projector. Retro's have 4 pnp connections to hook up and you're done. Take a look at them and weigh the differences. Check the vendor section for pricing. All said and done retro's kick ebay projectors off the map, are a bit more expensive but not all that much.
You need,
1. Good pair of oem or oem style headlights with working headlight adjusters
2. DDM H1 hid kit
3. 9007 bi-xenon relay harness for theretrofitsource.com
4. 1 pair of Morimoto H1 projectors
5. 1 pair mini gatlin gun shrouds
I have all the extra materials to complete these lights for you here at my residence. Retro's aren't for everyone but the pro's seriously out weigh the cons of the ebay lights if you're willing to spend the money to do it right the first time.
Last edited by cleangtp; 06-09-2011 at 06:05 AM.
06-09-2011
^^hes talking about headers though....lol
06-09-2011
Think I've been up to late....... WOW I'm sorry about that, but that is pretty funny. I seen spyders, didn't read another word haha
He was just in another thread talking about HID guess that's why I saw spyders and figured I'd give my opinion. Oh well least I don't have to post that all over again, just what happens when you've been up 20hrs.....
06-09-2011
I was gonna comment on the projectors too cause like you said he was talking about hids in another thread....I caught myself though lol
06-09-2011
Since I hijacked his thread before I go to bed....
On a budget these,
GRAND PRIX/GTP/REGAL/IMPALA/MONTE CARLO HEADER/EXHAUST | eBay
No budget any of these,
ZZ Performance
https://www.wbodystore.com/Stainless...ipe-p-332.html
SLP Performance Parts Coated Exhaust Headers: 3800 Performance
The Other Guys Exhaust Headers: 3800 Performance
Not going to mod past 3.4 pulley this,
ZZ Performance
+ this
ZZ Performance
Ummmm....
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/de...e&apwidByCr2mb Honda or GP???? Last I checked GP's had 3 exhaust ports per bank
Last edited by cleangtp; 06-09-2011 at 06:29 AM.
06-09-2011
all of the ebay headers are pretty much the same, just other sellers getting their hands on them. no one in specific owns that design so they just make them in batches. this is where you see different sellers take them to ebay and unload them.
06-09-2011
is it just me or do the headers in the picture look as if they are not gonna fit our car? I believe we only have 3 exhaust ports on each side, not 4...
unless everyone is secretly running V8s and has just been messing with me for 5 years...
06-09-2011
we've been messing with you...
06-09-2011
These will, by no stretch of the imagination, fit on you engine.
06-09-2011
Have fun bolting X-Tune headers to the transmission bell housing when you install them.
06-09-2011
i thought so... thats why your ass beat me
06-09-2011
You know it...I had the double cylinder addition modi thought so... thats why your ass beat me
06-09-2011
got it from ZZP probably lol
06-09-2011
In bulk.
06-09-2011
You call them ebay headers but they're not on ebay? I would buy the speed daddy's but they seem to have a lot of problems..maybe more than the spyders..(i think that's a stock pic) the actual headers would be different.
unfortuantely there's not a lot of headers in the $400-500 range except pacesetters.
cleangtp - thanks for the post on projectors, i may do that.
06-09-2011
They are going to have fitment issues since they are the same design as the pacesetter's.
06-09-2011
you sure on that because if they are...that's good seeing they're only 280.
06-09-2011
Why pay $280 for headers that won't fit? Do the speed daddy's man
06-09-2011
1) I think pacesetters for $280 are a good deal.
2) Speed daddys need new interlock flex, new gaskets, welded in certain spots, and still sometimes leak.
Last edited by Xanthous; 06-09-2011 at 03:46 PM.
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