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  1. #1 please dont tell me this is knock 
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    Well let the flaming begin but heres my question:

    I have been running my ssm90 kit for 3 months now. Have done some wot runs but nothing too much. No blatant/weird noises at all and it ran and pulled great. But just tonight i started noticing it. Im at some light and some guy in an infinity suv pulls up. We both go at it, and im noticing that my rmp's arent going up smoothly and the car will slow down slightly for a second then keep going again. Its not like its misfiring(which i have experienced before its nothing like that.)

    After the race i went wot again to see if it was just something random, but its doing it again and while i was going wot im hearing some pinging or ticking coming from under the hood. Is this freaking knock? I havent heard it before, is it somehow getting worse or is this just something else? My fpr on my pos zzp logs have a tiny leak, dunno if that would do anything. All input is appreciated, my setup is in my sig. Thanks guys.
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    Headers?
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    Take the spark plugs out and see if one is smashed
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    k il check it out tomorrow. If its smashed does that mean im pretty much fcucked?
    (sold) 1998 GP GT- ssm90'd. ported blower and lim, zzp fuel logs, l67 inj, 103's, zzp 2.5"dp, magnaflow mufflers, zzp plog, 3.8" ssm90 pulley, eibach springs, short db's
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    MMMMM.... Kinda
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    no scan gauge or anything? Whats the Fuel pressure? Also pop off the vac line from the vac nipple under the snout to the FPR itself and see if gas comes out. Hanging up and pinging=KR forsure
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    No scan gauge, i know dumbass move on my part. I yanked the vac line, no gas came out. Then i hooked it back up, started the car and im getting about 75psi.

    I quickly googled about the smashed spark plugs, and it seems that whenever someone's plugs are smashed the vehicle doesnt run well at all. Well mine runs great so i dont know if they are smashed or not, il check later today when i have more time. Im pretty sure im just knocking but i dont understand why it just started last night, unless its just been getting worse?
    (sold) 1998 GP GT- ssm90'd. ported blower and lim, zzp fuel logs, l67 inj, 103's, zzp 2.5"dp, magnaflow mufflers, zzp plog, 3.8" ssm90 pulley, eibach springs, short db's
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBGP View Post
    I quickly googled about the smashed spark plugs, and it seems that whenever someone's plugs are smashed the vehicle doesnt run well at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBGP View Post
    my rmp's arent going up smoothly and the car will slow down slightly for a second then keep going again.
    This is normally caused by KR. I had a few of those knock retards too, I always blamed it on something else. When I bought the tuner, finally found out that it was KR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanmiguel View Post
    This is normally caused by KR. I had a few of those knock retards too, I always blamed it on something else. When I bought the tuner, finally found out that it was KR.
    What did you do to remove the kr?
    (sold) 1998 GP GT- ssm90'd. ported blower and lim, zzp fuel logs, l67 inj, 103's, zzp 2.5"dp, magnaflow mufflers, zzp plog, 3.8" ssm90 pulley, eibach springs, short db's
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBGP View Post
    What did you do to remove the kr?
    You normally add fuel and/or remove timing where you get knock. In your case, I would get headers and find a way to get it scanned.
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    Either change various parameters to delete the knock retard, or get more flow mods.

    "**** bills. You can live in your car but you can't race your house" -dsmuts
    Want her to stop when she's not looking karate chop her in her crotch that should quiet her for a bit or at the very least put a smile on your face -REDCOMPG
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    hmmm, sounds like what my car is doing under heavy throttle, stock m90 stock pulley
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    What kind of flow mods would you say would work? i have a 2.5" dp, would getting a 3" really do anything? Well above headers was suggested but dont headers just raise the powerband? I kind of want to avoid that.

    But i just dont get how all of the sudden it just starts doing it
    (sold) 1998 GP GT- ssm90'd. ported blower and lim, zzp fuel logs, l67 inj, 103's, zzp 2.5"dp, magnaflow mufflers, zzp plog, 3.8" ssm90 pulley, eibach springs, short db's
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    because you dont have enough mods to be running that ssm90 kit and you blew some pistons apart. which cylinders were the plugs smashed? those are the ones that are all broke.
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    You get headers because you have higher compression...and flow restriction is the LAST thing you want with boost and high comp...so...most likely you started knocking...something got too hot...and POOF! My car ran pretty good on a chipped piston for about 300 miles until the entire skirt desinigrated. Getting headers and moving the powerband up does nothing but good for these cars since they lack top end and have AWFUL exhaust in the first place.

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    A few years ago, I had a customer that you could actually hear an audible ping when you got on it. It was predetonation, and because we caught it in time, it didn't hurt the motor. But we immediately pulled the plugs, and they were just toasted (as in burned off). New plugs cured MOST of it, but ended up pulling about 4* of timing to make sure it didn't happen again.

    You may not have hurt it right now, but if you keep it up you will. The GT pistons are thinner on top, won't hold up to the abuse like a GTP one.

    I would very seriously consider some type of scan gauge so that you can constantly keep an eye on what's going on. Those things are probably the best, money you can buy thing that can help you save an engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBGP View Post
    No scan gauge, i know dumbass move on my part. I yanked the vac line, no gas came out. Then i hooked it back up, started the car and im getting about 75psi.
    75psi? OMG thats the issue. Please confirm thats the number. If so dont start the car lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01gpgt01 View Post
    75psi? OMG thats the issue. Please confirm thats the number. If so dont start the car lol
    lol yea thats what it says. What should it be at
    (sold) 1998 GP GT- ssm90'd. ported blower and lim, zzp fuel logs, l67 inj, 103's, zzp 2.5"dp, magnaflow mufflers, zzp plog, 3.8" ssm90 pulley, eibach springs, short db's
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    pfff my car has hit 16* of knock im not going to say who's pcm it was

    gt pistons are stronger than what everyone makes them to be. Your car is crying for a GOOD street tune
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