Thread: PCM

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Your best bet is a custom tuned PCM.

Avoid ZZP PCMs at all cost. They damage everything.

Originally Posted by SDGTP99

Avoid ZZP PCMs at all cost. They damage everything.

my zzp tune was fine. Infact Id say no one can match there trans tunes. My trans lasted a very long time on alot of track pass's and beatings. These trannys live or die by the tunes

The ZZP tune I had cost me an engine and tranny <_<

^^ XD I've heard some bad **** about their Shelf PCMs..

You could also try Overkill PCMs, he does a pretty decent job.
:: Overkill Motorsports ::

It's a good start, but nothing compared to a good custom tune.

Originally Posted by Lukus

I want to get a new PCM but which one is the best? I know there is intense, zzp, ect. which would be the best to run a 3.4 set up? thanks

i have the 3.4 set up and pcm from 3800. im thoroughly satisfied. im going to reprogram it myself soon though. id like to know exactly whats its doing

My Vote goes to zzp, they do killer work. But pick what ever you want. They are pretty much all the same basic tune. But finding a good 3800 tuner in your area would leave your car much better off then with a "mail tune".

Originally Posted by Red Devil

My Vote goes to zzp, they do killer work. But pick what ever you want. They are pretty much all the same basic tune. But finding a good 3800 tuner in your area would leave your car much better off then with a "mail tune".

No no no no no no! ask bluegtp about zzp. they blow up engines and trannys and turn the ses light circuit off.. when it comes to parts they are the best.. when it comes to tunes they are the worst unless your getting a dyno. canned tune =

Originally Posted by Mitchstrp

No no no no no no! ask bluegtp about zzp. they blow up engines and trannys and turn the ses light circuit off.. when it comes to parts they are the best.. when it comes to tunes they are the worst unless your getting a dyno. canned tune =

No need to get all butt hurt over my smiple comment. The guy asked and I answered with what's worked the best for myself and about 12 other local's that I've delt with. Simple as that. I've yet to see a screwed up box tune from zzp with my own eyes. But I'm more then sure it's happened. When you deal with anything related to the automotive world and with people tryng to push a automobile past what it was deisgend to do. Thing's will go south as we all know, it's all part of the game of modding. If someone is going to get pissed about their car breaking then maybe it should of just been left alone and untouched. Pretty smiple really...

I had Tim at zzp build me a quick base tune last firday for my freinds xpz'ed car that I just finshed doing the build on last weekend. Fired it up last Saturday and got some mile's on it. Thing pull's 27 mpg on the highway, and just did a base line dyno with nothing touched on the base tune from Tim and it made 307 whp on a 3.25 pulley and mainfolds. I'd say a pretty good job was done on the base tune with nothing more to tune it then the info I told them. In the last 8 year's I've been in the w-body world everyone has sold a crap tune to someone. With that being said Buy whatever pcm you want, they all do the same thing at the end of the day.

custom overkill tune ftw...email will he will get back to you

no zzp pcm is the same, They seem to be setup to command more timing with lean 02's.

get a street tune by someone who's familiar with tuning the 3800.

Listen, some people have great luck with ZZP tunes.

SDGTP's toasted his motor.

I had FIVE of them...all bad PCM's and ended up frying mine too.

Be safe about it...and either have a custom tuned PCM tailored for your car OR buy a DHP from 3800 Performance.

pick whichever you feel most comfortable. the only one ill solidly recommend to people is a DHP PCM from 3800performance. however, they are all nearly identical to one another in how they are set up: GENERAL TUNE. none of them will be perfect or spot on for anyones car unless youre about to win the lottery lucky.

No ones gonna argue about a Custom tune Vs canned tune. My ZZP tune was very good. Infact I ran that tune untill I went into the 3.6 pulley range. Then I purchased HPT and tuned myself from there down

the past 2 cars that ive pulled tunes on, one was a regal gs the other was a gtp. Both zzp pcm's, both knocking more than 6*, both way different. When i was looking through them, they weren't the most well thought out canned tunes. I'm not singling them out, the intense pcm i had in my car was pretty ****ty but, safe enough to get by on, even with my L32/67 top end.

when you buy an over the counter tune, its pot luck, hit or miss, go or blow, lean and mean or fat and shat.

In 2004/2005 intense tunes killed many many many engines lol. Mine had less then a degree of KR on the 3.6 pulley. But yeah every cars different. Thats what makes a custom tune the better option

Even my overkill pcm wasn't perfect.

you want a good tune? learn or have someone street/dyno tune it that's familiar with the platform.