Quote Originally Posted by corsagtp View Post
You really don't have to get a downpipe, the u-bend is the most restrictive part of the exhaust so if you get rid of just that you should be good to go for the mods you want
The u-bend IS the most restrictive, but that was still an extremely stupid statement. To drop to a 3.4 you will need at least a 3" downpipe, intake, tune, colder plugs, 180tstat. Just get the 3" catted dp from zzp and dont waste your money on the 304 stainless because the standard will still probably outlive the car. If you plan on ever modding past a 3.4 setup you might as well not waste the money on a downpipe and just get headers because beyond 3.4 they are a must. Oh, and these cars sound like complete **** with the resonator removed, just leave it. There's a thread in the general tech section called safely modding your 3800 powered car, you should check it out. The ceramic pipe is useless, and is only for use with their front powerlog anyways. If you realy want to open up the exhaust don't waste your time and money on downpipes/powerlogs/crossovers, Pontiac Performance Racing Products for International Sales from SSAutochrome Inc. these headers fit great on these cars and are pretty cheap. This would be ALL you need and the exhaust will be done no matter how far you mod.