Catless DP with the stock catback sounds great IMO. It's louder than stock but still pretty tame, no real rasp either.
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have a video of a nice sounding one, because IMO this YouTube - 2004 pontiac grand prix gtp supercharged 3.8L V-6 does not sound good. i do not like raspy exhausts.
removing the resonator is GHEY! That's the reason it rattles like that. Watch, here's mine with headers, 3" dp, thrush glasspack, and 40's mufflers
HPIM4007.flv video by ninnyGTP - Photobucket
*edit* the reason they sound different is Firebirds/Camaros only use a single muffler and that GP had it's resonator removed
Just for comparison, here's my car before and after the glasspack
http://www.youtube.com/user/ninnyGTP#p/u/1/-tCprMiwnww
Last edited by ninnyGTP; 11-23-2009 at 08:03 PM.
no the camaro and firebird sound like crap because its not a LS motor. dude the 3800 sounds like garbage, put headers on, catless downpipe, and keep the resonator with stock mufflers thats the best its gonna sound without droning like crazy
best sounding 6 (Camaro) I think:
YouTube - V6 Camaro Exhaust vid
The thing that screws us over is the crossover, the F-body guys can have pretty good sounding cars for what they are.
On your dic? Have you filled up multiple times to get a constant reading.
V8 muffler should be designed to flow more air than one for a V6, larger piping.
yes, its a good reading. also its all city, not once on the highway. so its not really funny huh blue
headers, catless dp, stock muffs. i think mine sounds good. it growls at idle and is meatier than stock. but at highway speeds it doesnt drone. i think anything else does. if your not making more than 350whp like blue said leave it alone. if it aint broke dont fix it
I doubt the dic is a horrible reading, and even if its not accurate it stil increased by 2? so regardless it improved. Also i understand i havent had them on long but im seeing a consistant reading which also isnt going to change unless i drive harder.
i understand. i assume the way the dic is which would be callobrated in some way, its still going to find the avarage the same way. i dont find it hard to beileve that how well the mufflers flow compared to stock that i would get better mileage. Im not trying to argue, i just think regardless of how it calculates it improved.
The DIC is a joke, its their to look pretty and that's it. If you want an accurate reading your going to have to do it the old fashion way, with simple math and i very very highly doubt you gained mpg by mufflers.
Hell my DIC shows mpg dropping 1 by 1 when at idle...
I've calculated my mileage the normal way at almost every fill up. The DIC is consistently ~2 MPG above the actual. It usually reads 24-25.
While I agree the mufflers flow OK for 300ish WHP in our cars, the Resonator is not nearly as free, and I'd recommend removing, or swapping it, But......... If you wanna make an argument against the stock cat back, it doesn't flow well enough to get the max benefit of a 3in DP, or headers, the stock flows adequately, but once your past 250whp, adequate isn't what were looking for
You do realize...especially on a top swapped car how easy it is to throw down 250WHP right? It is dyno proven and tested the stock catback has no flowing issues until the 350-ish WHP mark. Saying the resonator isn't free flowing? The resonator just cuts drone and rasp...it does nothing to rob HP ratings, or flow ratings for that matter.
my car wrasps a bit when i rev it in park, but i love the way it sounds goin down the road. IMO that's what really counts. i don't normally sit in parking lots revving my motor for fun....
Get the $1100+ dollar Corsa Catback kit. Will make your car way faster...
Not really but, in all seriousness I don't think anyone has the expensive kit on there GP to say anything about it sound wise... Pony up!
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