oh and no i dont have a resonator, its all straight pipe back.
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oh and no i dont have a resonator, its all straight pipe back.
LOL, yup we are all just dumbasses. Go **** yourself bob. Omg you have two different fuels running in you sbc. You are a ****ing amazing all hail the mighty bob. Could you please enlighten me on how in the world you could do such a thing. Really? do you think you are so much smarter than everyone else. Before I bought my GTP I was going to get a 7.3l powerstroke diesel and run it on bio diesel and propane injection and make more power than your sbc could ever dream of touching and to top it off it would also be better for the environment. I am 18 go to college work in a shop and come on here to help people with there cars, but I guess I am just a dumb ass and know nothing about cars. I am sure I can understand everything that you have done to your all mighty sb. I really hope when I am 53 I have something better going on in my life than to come onto a car forum and tell every one how stupid they are and the government is going to come get them for doing something to their car. I really think the government should be busier trying to fix the economy and get the wars cleaned up, then going after some people who do not have all the emission devices on their car that is driven on the street. I could really give a **** less about your law degree. Looks like it is going to good use trying to scare some kids on the internet. You should send the money you wasted getting that to me, so I can buy some more tools and do something with my life. So in the end you can go **** yourself while getting off over some environment protection laws. :th_shakinghead2:
Bob just hasn't gotten any for 50 years...that is why he is so angry at the world. Like a midget at a giant convention.
LMFAO. Awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluegtp91
I stll have my mufflers and a cat, so I am safe from a legal standpoint...
^ vagie lol
The only thing that guy said that I believe was the part about the rear o2 sensor input data partially controlling the fuel injection. I am going to find the page in my Manual now and quote it for all of you to read. I didn't believe it until I read it myself.
Hey Bob, its unfortunate you have to leave! A little friendly debate never hurt anyone, you have a law degree you should like to debate, no?
I do not understand your reasoning? You have a degree in Law = We don't have any degree? I graduated a prestigious university with High Honers in psychology BTW.:th_winking:Quote:
Originally Posted by bobburns
I find it so interesting how people with a background in law and politics handle arguments. They essentially ignore facts that make them look wrong and supplement things with other (irrelevant) correct facts. As i stated it would be a waste of time and money for Police to find, arrest and prosecute those who are illegally modifying their exhaust.Quote:
Second, since Casper's was found by Justice Department officials surfing the web, all of you continue to holler loud and proud your lawlessness and they can find you and this site too.
I find it interesting how the elderly neglect to recognize the word "opinion". You stated you opinion, not a right/wrong answer as a factual question was never posed.Quote:
Third, this guy asked, and I gave him the correct answers and maybe not what he wanted to hear but it is the correct answer.
"Six vehicles were destroyed at an auto graveyard as local law enforcement ramped up enforcement against illegal street racing, which is responsible for or suspected in 13 deaths in Southern California since March" Again as i stated earlier substituting a correct, but irrelevant, piece of information to make oneself look right. Can you now please go find me an article where ONE vehicle was crushed because of an exhaust modification as i requested before?Quote:
Fourth, as to DNAprodigy's question for proof of crushed cars there is picture of SIX stacked on top of another all crushed - wheels and all with one of the ex-owners standing there looking at what was once his pride and joy on the front page of the Los Angeles Times for June 21, 2007 and I would have attached it, but your site will not allow the upload - it fails as to both PDF and JPG - under the listed sizes allowed - so look it up yourself. Crushing street racing | Bottleneck Blog | Los Angeles Times They do not have the picture I have of the six of them stacked up. [google for more] I never said anyone would be sought out and arrested, but that would mean the reader would need to know the distinction between civil and criminal law - and since no one here is I am sure with a law degree - I am sure I can forget any understanding there from anyone here. I am not here to debate with someone so clearly wrong. Never argue with a fool, most listens cannot tell which is which
Read the entire thing bob. This is why i understand, again, that seeking out and busting people for illegal exhaust mods is as low as it gets on the Police priority list.Quote:
Fifth, I fully expected largely absolutely completely juvenile responses most of which would be wrong - and they are. If anyone can actually find and read the anti-tampering provision of the Clean Air Act you will find what is unlawful to remove or replace without it being an approved replacement - period. Caspers had your kind of attitude right up until they had given in pay up and loose big.
You needed a part from our vehicle to get where you are?! We are flattered! Technologically advanced for us? You didn't know the rear o2 on a GP does not effect fuel trims? Kind of lowers your credibility to judge who is and isn't capable of understand technology now doesn't it?Quote:
Sixth, I have a Chevy 350 that is roots blown with a GM Eaton setup that came off of Grand Prix and absolutely I am sure gets way better mileage than anything anyone is driving here; (even though it it BIGGER); is street legal under OEM emissions spec; has dual fueling systems and from what I see is way too technologically advanced for anyone here to understand. The only difference bewteen it and a 2009 GM LS9 is it is a LS9 from 1974 casting block (four bolt main) upgraded all the way to a 2009 version.
Ps. you don't want to have a spitting contest over who can get better mpg...
Oh now your agenda is evident ergo your extremely bias responses.Quote:
So, seventh, I am nowhere near "senile" - I own an alternative fueling company and work with the EPA on targeting trends and we are looking at who to make an example of next int he coming wave of legislation aimed at Cap and Trade enforcement policies.
Priorities... If it was that important they wouldn't be "considering policing the Internet more strenuously as to this kind of behavior" they would be doing it. And we know you have a law degree thanks.Quote:
Eighth, you young men do not know who you are talking to when you spout off, but you are all trackable through your handles, what you put in print and IP registrations, and you stupidity shows among some of you. I could be a lawyer - (a.k.a I have a Law Degree) or a Judge or the EPA itself. Are you all that stupid? I guess so. The government is considering policing the Internet more strenuously as to this kind of behavior, websites and beliefs. You've been advised of such.
If you knew even an ounce about marketing and advertising you would be ware that its purpose is to generate sales and revenue for a corporation. You would also know that it is irresponsible for an individual person to eliminate an entire target market because they had a bad experience on a forum. U have a law degree tho so you know that.Quote:
Ninth, my mission was to look for sites to spend advertising dollars at and whose sites to block from receiving our ads.I think I have just about enough info from this site.
Name calling insinuates frustration. Are you frustrated bob that we had elegant and insightful responses to your banter?Quote:
I had not intended to waste time returning here - but from a pestering email from the post I left. Since I cannot see how to unsubscribe from the posts of this forum - I do not need the forum - I run this kind of business and no one here can offer me any information of any value to me except nutcases are really alive and well on the Internet.
Its because not "because". And bear responsibility for what? You vend alternative fueling... Again closing down advertising to potential customers is irresponsible.Quote:
I will not sell to sorts like you here, becasue like Caspers, I must bear responsibility for the items we vend, and this is not the place to offer anyone the products we have.
Kind of empty threat. Again if you knew about marketing and advertising you would understand that generating sales is a priority over the opinions of a few members on a forum.Quote:
While I am at it - I might contact some the sponsors whose ads are showing and tell them what they are spending money on here - and then maybe the moderator/owner will think twice before letting this kind of buck wild lawless behavior run loose on the sire and destroy it's commercial value and appeal.
You'll be back to read this :th_winking:Quote:
Wow, today's young are really fools I see.
Bye now - Bob :th_king-evil:
unsubscribing from site
The rear 02 just tells the computer if the cat is working. So it kinda does control emissions. It will set the ses light and the driver will normally take it to a shop and have the cat fixed. The rear 02 does not control fuel trims directly. The only way it will change the trims is on 01+ cars when the rear 02 is removed they can get stuck in the cat diagnostic mode flooding the car with fuel to see if the cat reacts to this. Since there is no cat or 02 it will not change the reading so it will stay in that mode. I put an 02 sim in mine and no longer have that problem. That method works for some and not for others I do not know why.
"The catalyst monitor sensors operate the same as the fuel control sensors. Although the HO2S 2 sensor's main function is catalyst monitoring, it also plays a limited role in fuel control. If the sensor out-put indicates a voltage either above or below the 450 millivolt bias voltage for an extended period of time, the PCM will make sight adjustment to fuel trim to ensure that fuel delivery is correct for catalyst monitoring"
Taken out of page 4-9 of Chilton's General Motors - Century/Lumina/Grand Prix/Intrigue 1997-00 repair manual. Part number 28380
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Originally Posted by MidnightSpecial
I really have to get me one of those one day.
hahahaha wow! isn't that bob guy something....subscribes to the best forum dedicated to modifying grand prix's, to flame people for modifying their grandprixs! and yeah, notifying the sponsors of this site would just hurt everyone in a negative way, and not that they would care (they help us mod!) but wow, really? are you gonna tell on us? :th_nervous:
-also i dont hate camaros, they're sexy as f!@$....but where i live, a camaro in the snow = fail.
SHOUTOUT TO DnaProdigy! lay that psych. on bob's ass!
Lmao, this old guy is halarious. Sorry but no vendor who sells mods will care if you email them telling them they're selling us mods. What are you ****ing retarded?
You're obviously too old and senile to see how the world and goverment actually work, therefore, nobody give a **** about your law degree which is probably about 40 years old anyway. And you wanna complain about emissions? We have new cars that are much better at controlling emissions than whatever 1950s pos v8 you drive.
Again...Bob just needs to get laid.
His free trial of Viagra ran out so that is not happening anytime soon.
What i want to know is, does bob even own a grand prix? That 53 year old virgin needs to find something better 2 do with his time.
It was a joke........settle down. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by 01GTP
How the heck did I miss reading this thread until months after it happened? I sure hope Bob comes around again, so this time I can throw in my 2 cents against him as well.
LMFAO This is hilarious.. he offered to do it for free because he'll probably get a nice chunk of change for the cat at the local wrecker...
i am angry and this thread is so damn old. f*& bob. all the environmental stuff is really doing california good huh? bastard.