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    the list of everything i'm gonna do to my car, in order. do you guys think im on the right track?

    Already have a CAI and 180 T-Stat just need to get it put in.
    1. 3" bolt in off-road down pipe from zzp.
    2. ZZP front powerlog/3800 perf. ported manifolds.
    (which would you think is better if i'm only gonna go to like a 3.4?)
    3. Intense PCM (if there is a better one i should get let me know)
    4. Put autolite 104's in.
    6. S/C P&P, TB spacer, and either a P&P TB or a stage 2 HV TB from ZZP.
    (which TB should i get? Any suggestions?)
    5. Yella Terra Rollers with 105 springs and ls1 retainers.
    6. Devilsown meth injection kit and run 100% meth.
    (that good? or should i do 50/50 meth/water?)
    7. ZZP MPS with a 3.4 pulley and a stock one just in case.

    so thats my plan. any thing i should change or not do? this is gonna be done while in college so its definitely not gonna be done all at once. any changes let me know. thanks for all your guys help this site has been an amazing resource and all you guys rock
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhrfpa11 View Post
    the list of everything i'm gonna do to my car, in order. do you guys think im on the right track?

    Already have a CAI and 180 T-Stat just need to get it put in.
    1. 3" bolt in off-road down pipe from zzp.
    2. ZZP front powerlog/3800 perf. ported manifolds.
    (which would you think is better if i'm only gonna go to like a 3.4?)
    3. Intense PCM (if there is a better one i should get let me know)
    4. Put autolite 104's in.
    6. S/C P&P, TB spacer, and either a P&P TB or a stage 2 HV TB from ZZP.
    (which TB should i get? Any suggestions?)
    5. Yella Terra Rollers with 105 springs and ls1 retainers.
    6. Devilsown meth injection kit and run 100% meth.
    (that good? or should i do 50/50 meth/water?)
    7. ZZP MPS with a 3.4 pulley and a stock one just in case.

    so thats my plan. any thing i should change or not do? this is gonna be done while in college so its definitely not gonna be done all at once. any changes let me know. thanks for all your guys help this site has been an amazing resource and all you guys rock
    1) Good.
    2) Stainless Steel Powerlog...Ported Manifolds are a waste of money and the rear is fine you don't need to worry about it...unless you pull it off and port it yourself.
    3) 3800Performance.com sells DHP PCM's. Get one. Everything else is crap compared to a DHP.
    4) Yup. Good.
    5) You don't need springs and retainers...unless your getting something larger than 1.84:1 Roller Rockers...1.84's can be used with stock springs and retainers. If you get 1.9's or 1.95's then you can use LS6 Springs and LS6 Retainers.
    6) Do that last.
    7) Since you are getting a 3.4" MPS...might as well get a 3.25" if your running 100% Methanol...only deal with that is because your going to have to get a custom tune with the Meth. Up to you.
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    alriiight thank you. i was leaning toward the powerlog anyway cause its quite a bit cheaper. is there any other website that sells dhp pcm's cause apparently 3800 Performance doesnt ship to alaska. if intense wasnt good i was thinking an Overkill pcm if i couldnt get a DHP. for the rockers i am gonna get them from ZZP eventually and i just selected the springs and retainers from the drop down list to go with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhrfpa11 View Post
    Already have a CAI and 180 T-Stat just need to get it put in.
    1. 3" bolt in off-road down pipe from zzp.
    2. ZZP front powerlog/3800 perf. ported manifolds.
    (which would you think is better if i'm only gonna go to like a 3.4?)
    3. Intense PCM (if there is a better one i should get let me know)
    4. Put autolite 104's in.
    5. S/C P&P, TB spacer, and either a P&P TB or a stage 2 HV TB from ZZP.
    (which TB should i get? Any suggestions?)
    6. Yella Terra Rollers with 105 springs and ls1 retainers.
    7. Devilsown meth injection kit and run 100% meth.
    (that good? or should i do 50/50 meth/water?)
    8. ZZP MPS with a 3.4 pulley and a stock one just in case.
    here is my opinion:

    1. 3" downpipe is good
    2. powerlog will be way more effective
    3. DHP is better for a safe tune on a DD that you want to flog on it a bunch
    4. AL104s arent needed until you drop pullies
    5. all of this stuff is completely useless to you on a 3.4 setup, dont get any of it
    6. good idea, that helps a lot with flow
    7. nice, i loved running 100% meth on my car
    8. good choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    here is my opinion:

    1. 3" downpipe is good
    2. powerlog will be way more effective
    3. DHP is better for a safe tune on a DD that you want to flog on it a bunch
    4. AL104s arent needed until you drop pullies
    5. all of this stuff is completely useless to you on a 3.4 setup, dont get any of it
    6. good idea, that helps a lot with flow
    7. nice, i loved running 100% meth on my car
    8. good choice.
    so what should i do to take full advantage of these mods?
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    Buy a tuner and learn how to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01GTP View Post
    Buy a tuner and learn how to use it.
    probably, but if youre talking about the TB/blower/LIM then you really dont need it ported or anything until you get in the 3.0 pulley range. a TB upgrade will never give you a big gain unless youre moving a serious amount of air.
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    what should i get if the dhp pcm isn't available to me?
    i was thinking overkill
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhrfpa11 View Post
    what should i get if the dhp pcm isn't available to me?
    i was thinking overkill
    why wouldnt it be available to you? You can get them at 3800performance.com
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    i tried to get one before but im in alaska and i guess they dont ship up here. the site wont go past the shipping page
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    Your on the right track, though i'd loose 1 and 2 right away and get Headers. P-logs are junk, they all seem to crack sooner or later and won't help you like Headers will. Headers will improve flow from both heads, not just one half assed like the P-log does. Plus the money you spend on a P-log, porting rear maini, coated crossever you could have headers and gained more power and have a better setup to start with. Besides, headers generally come with a weld in 3" DP shorty which covers number 1.

    3,4,6 With Alky you'll need some tuning so a tuner maybe an option for you. PLugs will go with the tuning too. You'll need tighter gaps for sure.

    And lastly, Don't even think about it till you scan your and know you're running 0 KR. You'll need either a scanner or a scanner/tuner combo to do this effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhrfpa11 View Post
    i tried to get one before but im in alaska and i guess they dont ship up here. the site wont go past the shipping page
    wow, that sucks..........do you know anyone in the lower forty eight that you could have it sent to, and then have them send it to you? Just an idea.
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    not really all my family is all here. it sucks a nuuut
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    find a willing member on here to play middle man for you. we are all pretty nice.
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    Yeah have Nick (Bio) do it...he is a good people person LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    i hate you, but its a love-hate. i think.
    LOL...I'm touched
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    LOL...I'm touched
    Touched where?


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    this thread now has fail written all over it.
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