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    I have a pretty much stock '97 GTP minus a wizaired intake. what do you guys think i should dump my money into as my first big mod. Intercooler or headers and why? also what would ballpark prices be for the installation?
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    How much money do you have? That way we have a ballpark figure of mods to give you. Get headers...then an intercooler, then a small pulley...like a 3.0" or something...then a tune...

    Oh...then bye bye transmission...'97 tranny's are the weak vacuum powered ones.
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    i have around 1500 or so. what would the limit of mods i could go to without blowing the trans, cuz thats the last thing i want to do lol. would you suggest trying to upgrade the trans or would that be a waste?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    How much money do you have? That way we have a ballpark figure of mods to give you. Get headers...then an intercooler, then a small pulley...like a 3.0" or something...then a tune...

    Oh...then bye bye transmission...'97 tranny's are the weak vacuum powered ones.

    Actully IIRC, the GTPs had the 4T65-HD (though slightly different than later units). The early GTs had the vacuum powered trans (4T60-E), mid year they changed to the 4T65-E which they used throughout production which weren't vacuum...
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    triple edge performance trans =] intercooler smaller pulley headers with 3 inch downpipe and a nice set of rumbling mufflers id say =] oo and intercooled with a northstar throttle body and then port your supercharger lim and n* t-body and get a tune and get a t-stat =]

    more then ur limit though but i dont blame u cuz i have no money at all right now =[ lol good luck and have funnnnn
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    All I got out of that was intercooler, and headers.

    Headers have a downpipe, you don't have to get it separate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Indian View Post
    Actully IIRC, the GTPs had the 4T65-HD (though slightly different than later units). The early GTs had the vacuum powered trans (4T60-E), mid year they changed to the 4T65-E which they used throughout production which weren't vacuum...
    Sure? I could have sworn all the '97's had vacuum powered transmissions?

    Who knows...all I know is any GP'er that mods like crazy is going to be needing a transmission soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    All I got out of that was intercooler, and headers.

    Headers have a downpipe, you don't have to get it separate.



    Sure? I could have sworn all the '97's had vacuum powered transmissions?

    Who knows...all I know is any GP'er that mods like crazy is going to be needing a transmission soon enough.
    nope, only the 97 GTs. that is why you never top swap a 97 GT.
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    get a 2.8 pulley for the blower and get a 150 shot of NOS or ZEX lol hold on!! but you will def blow your engine and trans ROTFLMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    nope, only the 97 GTs. that is why you never top swap a 97 GT.
    Good to know...I just thought it was a universal '97 nightmare...or was I wrong in thinking that the '97's 4T65E-HD was still weaker than the later versions?

    Anywho...I still stand buy the intercooler and headers...GTP's love breathing and keeping cool...stock cars are like a cholesterol addicted fat chick in the summertime with no A/C. Get it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    Good to know...I just thought it was a universal '97 nightmare...or was I wrong in thinking that the '97's 4T65E-HD was still weaker than the later versions?

    Anywho...I still stand buy the intercooler and headers...GTP's love breathing and keeping cool...stock cars are like a cholesterol addicted fat chick in the summertime with no A/C. Get it?

    I've heard people say 97' 4T65-HDs were weaker but i'm not for sure. I heard there were a couple small things different in them. Best man for those details would definatly be Trannyman.

    I like your quote BTW! LOL
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    LOL fat chicks.
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