Thread: SSAC or Pacesetter Headers

smaller primary headers will make better torque. nothing wrong with s&s headers. ron is planing on going 11's this season with them.

as for the pacesetters there not that bad. all i did was clamp the y and its fine. its not hard at all. for the money i cant complain one bit.

Originally Posted by dezldave961

SSAC's are what dagger linked from ebay. They're selling for the same price as going directly to ssautochrome.com now, so might as well buy direct.

I've installed/uninstalled every style of header over the years for people, and there's a reason that the past 6+ I've done were all SSAC's. When installing, I swap in a ZZP flex, and use Torca AccuSeal clamps with copper RTV, and folks go on their way happy. There is ZERO welding involved if you want to install them as they arrive, though.

For a cat, it would need to be welded in. I did one last month on an '02 Monte SS and here's the line-up before assembly:



The d/p needs to be cut so that the cat begins at the end of the last bend (leave 1-2" of straight on the d/p, since the cat can slide over it). Cut half of the expanded portion off the flange pipe off, right behind the end of the slits, to butt & weld the rear of the cat to that. Some care needs to be taken to keep things aligned, and you may not want to have the cat sit flat, since our tunnels aren't always wide enough to fit them straight.

I've got gobs of SSAC pics in various locations, if someone needs an example.

- Dave

Can you please show some examples I am going to order this soon and what kind of MAGNAFLOW CAT did you use 3" to 3" right and at what angle should I install the CAT. Is it easier to have the cat put in before installation or should I have someone weld it later when it is on the car so they can mesure the angle. Also where do you get these Torca AccuSeal clamps. I just ordered the SSAC Headers. Mabey in a few months before I have to renew the Reg and go to Inspection then I will get the ZZP DP and put the cat in any differance in the Tuning for CAT or No CAT

thanks that link is for 2.25 inch is that correct or should it be 3" ZZP is also out f stock onthe 3" Flex

the only one they offer on the site is with a 3" dp

im running welded ceramic pace setters and love every minute of em

S&S exit as 2.5". no step downs for an aftermarket catback.

thanks I ordered the Clamps and the Headers so I hope to have them soon ZZP said 1 to 2 weeks till the Flex section is goingto be avail. I guess I will use it like it comes for now Cause my exhaust is getting loud because of the leak and starting to produce KR of about 2 to 3 degrees when under mid acceleration

i like my smaller primaries and if my car ever runs 11s then ill have spent too much money on it. im good with 12s. i like torque, screw top end.

hey, finally a thread where people realize that bigger isn't always better. That's the biggest thing I don't like about the SSAC headers, they only come with 1 3/4" primaries.

i have the old school pacesetters and i think they are 1 7/8's not sure tho.

i bought them because they were cheap and frankly dident know anything about headers..

I bought mine because I AM cheap and knew they get the job done for a decent price.

yea i cant complain they work great.

SSAC's primaries are 1-5/8in, just like SLP's & TOG's. This is the common size, as it was the best fit our exhaust port outlet, and seems to extract the proper amount for our engine airflow.

PS's and ZZP's primaries are 1-3/4in, as were Xtreme TOG's.

There were also a very limited offering of TOG Big Dog headers with 2" primaries... only the 10-sec s/c cars of JohnT (MP112/spray) and the BadSSEi (KB blowzilla) ran these, as far as I know. I doubt many others even attempted them, as folks like Jamhoney (Gen V) have gotten to low-low 11's with TOG's and X-TOG's.

- Dave

are you sure the SSACs are 1 5/8? They list them as 1 3/4, but their specs are pretty suspect. If they are 1 5/8, that's good news.

I was thinking the Big Dogs were 1 7/8, too. Doesn't really matter, though, since they're long gone.

Well, as I said, that's very good news. I must have missed it when Zoomer was testing them, I've been kind of in and out of the community, but I was also around during the time of the Big Dogs. As I said, it's neither here nor there at this point, anyway. You've done far more on these cars than just about anyone around, so I'll just drop it.