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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    S&S FTW.

    that is all.
    Not knocking them but I had a guy here locally that could never get his to seal at all? Is it a common issue Bio?

    I know the Pacesetters are about 200 bucks more and they dont have much success sealing either...just wondering
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    whaaaaat? mine were easy as crap to seal. actually, the other day i found one of the bolts on my crossover completely out and it was still sealed. tightened that up and was good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    whaaaaat? mine were easy as crap to seal. actually, the other day i found one of the bolts on my crossover completely out and it was still sealed. tightened that up and was good to go.
    Well...shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit...
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    no lies, honestly to god. 1/2 of the bolts on the crossover just hanging there and it is still sealed? im still sold on these headers no matter what anyone else has to say. i would buy these things over any other set of headers including ZZP because i straight up do not trust slip fit garbage. TOGs had the right idea with the donut gaskets, but i just dont like the 3 piece design they had. i couldnt get my TOGs to seal worth dick. it is probably because the guys before me tightened them down too much and 'ovaled' out the joints, but i still think a two piece designed header is way way way way.....wwaaaaaayyy easier to install and make fit. i just wish ZZP headers weren't slip fits..
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    Ya S&S's seal up real well. I do have an exhaust leak however, but that's just cause a rusted chunk fell off the flange of my stock catback lol.
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    Is there not a cheaper place to get S&S than $717 + shipping for DP and cat'd version? I just noticed ZZP no longer has the Pacesetters up, and the only other place I can find them is WBS (who I'm not looking forward to ordering from if I have to). They're only $360 though...
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    im not sure if WBS actually still sells them because i think they are turning into a ZZP distributor. if i were to do it again i would buy uncoated ones and wrap them myself to save money and have a more performance oriented header.
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    I despise header wrap, so I'll probably be getting whatever I buy coated.

    I still like the Pacesetters with band clamps.
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    there not bad headers. just take your time and seal them up
    white 04 comg G gtp. wizair, pacesetters, slp 1.8 rr
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    Polished Stainless......Nuff said






    OH, and no leaks......period.....First try.
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    yea... zzp ftw... cant wait to get those beastly headers
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    have you seen my engine bay lately? i dont give a crap about how my headers look. ill take a picture of my mess tomorrow to show you all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    have you seen my engine bay lately? i dont give a crap about how my headers look. ill take a picture of my mess tomorrow to show you all.
    no i dont mean how nice and polished they are... thats a plus, but how they are made... its perfect, and thos big primaries. love those headers
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    I've seen it...I wanna keep my lunch down thanks though LMAO!! jk man!!

    I know your all for go and no show

    But damn Brian...post a pic of those ZZP headers NOW...all gold and pimpin' and shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit lol
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    i havent taken any since ive gotten my meth kit completed, so its due anyway. the tank i have is PIMP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    i havent taken any since ive gotten my meth kit completed, so its due anyway. the tank i have is PIMP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    custom
    PAAALEEEEEZ do not tell me you used an empty Vodka bottle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    PAAALEEEEEZ do not tell me you used an empty Vodka bottle...
    that would be all kinds of hilarious, but no i didn't.
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    Damn Reptile, those headers sure are purdy! Makes me want to go polish mine up a bit.

    One of the problems that people have with TOG's is that during a batch (the first batch under the new ownership i believe) the flange on the rear header that connects to the crossover can be a little bit awkward. I had some issues with that, as did the guy that I bought my TOG's from.
    Here's one guy's solution.....
    I'm told that TOG updated the design and all of the recent batches have been perfectly fine.

    Also - I know that alot of people have issues with the trans dipstick, but for those of you with the '04-'05 Monte Carlo and Impala SS's, I think they updated the dipstick style for the L67 for those years and it fits just fine. I didn't have to bend mine and it isn't touching anything (or even close to doing so). Other guys with the '04-'05 L67 have said the same thing (most of them had actually bought the pre-bent dipstick tube beforehand and realized it matched theirs exactly)
    In fact, I heard a rumor that the "pre-bent" dipstick tube that some vendors sell is actually an OEM part that came exactly that way.

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