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    I have my SSIC for sale (complete with core, pump, lines, rad, hardware and injector spacers) if anyone is interested. It's listed on wbody marketplace facebook page. /shameless plug
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    I'm waiting to see what zzp puts up for sale on their BF weekend thing, I guess at a minimum I'll hope to at least get some of the kit for whichever core I go with, I just hate that I'm probably going to need spacers if I go with a full size, which is most likely what I'll end up doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USonuMabeaCh View Post
    I'm waiting to see what zzp puts up for sale on their BF weekend thing, I guess at a minimum I'll hope to at least get some of the kit for whichever core I go with, I just hate that I'm probably going to need spacers if I go with a full size, which is most likely what I'll end up doing.
    injector spacers won't work with a full size core, have to have the modified fuel rails.
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    I was referring to the cradle spacers.
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    Does pre 04 have less space between the hood and SC? I placed a 3.5" block in my SC and closed the hood and barely touched the liner in one corner.

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    was the tb on the blower? iirc thats what can hit. most will use a turn down on the tb to sc.

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    oh pre 04. those fit fit, its the 04 up where the tb can hit.

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    I wasn't really worried about the TB, I'll either turn it or make a turn down (well down and forward).

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    An engine is an engine no matter the size.... I think Dr. Seuss said that... or maybe it was Big Weld....
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    So... apparently ZZP's modified fuel rails are out of stock for the l67 (only shows if in cart), and I'm not willing to fork over $400 for their billet logs (tbh im not really happy about the price of the modified fuel rails for the l67)....

    I've done some searching and keep reading referencing about some method of modifying them that isn't exactly beautiful, but works, and doesnt involve some expensive aftermarket FPR?
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    Oh, and just to be clear, WBodystore and PRJ no longer offer them.
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    ScottyDoggs modified a set of fuel rails using nicopp and some compression fittings, I think he has it documented in his member ride thread
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    modded my stock rail.

    its not super pretty, but it cost me 25 bucks.



    this is what you see pretty much when you open the hood. its tolerable in my book.

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    Out of curiosity, why does ZZP put an aftermarket FPR in their L67 kits?

    @ scotty, does it leak at all?
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    zzp doesn't actually use an aftermarket fpr in their modded fuel rails, but in their billet fuel logs they do, because you can't really use an oem fpr on them. you might be able to use an oem fpr on the billet logs if you can attach the housing to the rails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USonuMabeaCh View Post
    Out of curiosity, why does ZZP put an aftermarket FPR in their L67 kits?

    @ scotty, does it leak at all?

    wont lie, they all leaked a tiny bit. once the line near th ealt was massaged into place to clear the alt better i made them all tight one more time while under pressure till they stopped leaking. one put up a fight. but i got it sealed off.

    truth is im still checking them after every first start in the morning. been days now, bone dry.

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    Any reason you didnt use braided lines
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    I don't think you can use compression fittings on braided lines
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    money. i looked up "AN" lines and fittings and all that crap. this was the cheapest way to do it. using a flair tool cant cost much or any more tho.

    should you build a set like this, you install the rail first, then drop the core and blower on. only draw back is ill have to take the lines off to get the rail off with the blower still on. lines are trapped under the snout and tb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtMarshal View Post
    I don't think you can use compression fittings on braided lines
    you can, AN makes a compression fitting that you can thread braided line on to.

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    nvm, apparently i dont know what a compression fitting is, lulz i just thought any AN fitting was the same thing
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