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    Pictures of holes? Unless you mean the ring landing of the pistons are "chipped" around the 1 o'clock position.

    It has been said that the NA engines don't handle detonation as well as the SC engines. And the SIII doesn't handle it as well as the SII.

    Also been said that KR over time will weaken piston and they can fail without seeing KR.

    If and when you do this again, aim for 1* of KR max even in third gear. Even then, play it safe and aim for zero.

    And don't tune around KR, adjust the pulley size or fix the mechanical issue causing it.

    Should last longer, but there's always that chance.
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    Yea where the alt bolts in. And I don't have pics yet its still at hos shop. But he said tops of pistons had holes.
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    The valve cover has a hole because someone put the wrong bolt in there.
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    That wouldn't cause it to be lean though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01GrandPrixTURBOGT View Post
    That wouldn't cause it to be lean though.

    it lets tons of un metered air into the engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    it lets tons of un metered air into the engine.


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    well i dont know what else it could be fuel pressure was fine when i tested after the swap
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    Did you test fuel pressure while driving at wot? That's when you'll see the drop off
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsmuts View Post
    Did you test fuel pressure while driving at wot? That's when you'll see the drop off
    My next gauge
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    No I didn't the gauge I had from oreilys wouldn't reach.
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    What gauge do you guys recommend for fuel pressure and afr?
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    AFR I'd do with an AEM.
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    What do you guys think of the fail safe wideband?
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    I just have the UEGO wideband. Don't know what the difference is but mine has outputs you can tap into HP Tuners pro and I log my afr in my scans but I read the gauge to see whats going on while im driving. All I really need. Can peek on the go and read logs when I sit down to change numbers.
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    Ok i may try that one out. So what numbers or ranges am I looking for?
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    Idle and cruise will always jump around as the computer switches rich/lean but once you enter PE it should lock in to some degree. 14.3-15.2 idle abd cruise. For another high compression top swap build try 11.0 in boost.
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    Ok so the 14.3 is just n/a?
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    No that's cruise and idle afr. Should always be as close to 14.7 as possible but you'll see a little variation. Normal at idle and cruise.
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    O yea duh 14.7 is normal haha. So when I get my car back what should I look for first? Fuel pressure and afr while cruising I know can one gauge do this? Also anything else that would cause chipped pistons besides kr.
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    po171 is a vacuum leak right? where could i have a leak if the hoses are fine?
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