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    Any mpg gains,power or performance gains?
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    I had the overkill 91 octane tune on my GT last year and it suppose to add some power but my car ran excellent with the tune plus I had full bolt ons.
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    I feel like my car is a little more spunky when it's running 93. Whether it's just a placebo effect or not, I've never been able to test.
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    I've been running 93 for two tanks now... Does seem a lil more peppy. I just filled up today, the dic said I used 10.7 gallons but car only took 8.3 gallons... I would assume gas mileage is getting better
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    i run 93 in my 04 n/a all the time its a definite gain on mpg's
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    i have the supercharger. i bought the car about 2 months ago from a girl who used 87. it ran like a champ. i put 93 in it (the two stations i can find anything higher than 91) and runs the same as far as I can tell. same mpg. i've put 4 or 5 tanks in it now and used seafoam in the first tank. i can't tell any difference.

    maybe i'm just lucky, though.

    i put 91 in my 89 regal 3.1L. made no difference at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiftingshaddow View Post
    i have the supercharger. i bought the car about 2 months ago from a girl who used 87. it ran like a champ. i put 93 in it (the two stations i can find anything higher than 91) and runs the same as far as I can tell. same mpg. i've put 4 or 5 tanks in it now and used seafoam in the first tank. i can't tell any difference.

    maybe i'm just lucky, though.

    i put 91 in my 89 regal 3.1L. made no difference at all.
    i got my 04 from the dealer and immediatly noticed it has 87 in it when i test drove, i went to the gas station and filled up with 93 cus it was basicly empty and as i was driving(my dad was in the car and heard it too) you could hear and feel the 93 kicking in. The car started running so much smoother and had more of a roar to it.

    Our pcms sense what octane gas we are burning and run accordingly unless obv tuned otherwise. So you would def see gains from 93, i would try a tune up, replace pvc clean maf wire plugs fuel filter air filter ect.
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    I have a incar tune from overkill for 91 octane for almost 2 years now, best mod I have done so far, better mpg way more power and compliments my other mods
    For all you n/a guy's without a tune running on 91 it wasting your money,.
    And for the supercharged guy I hope you know you HAVE TO run atleast 91.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimsin View Post
    And for the supercharged guy I hope you know you HAVE TO run atleast 91.
    yeah. i know. i was saying previous owner ran it on 87. it seems to have little or no effect. she apparantly wasn't hot rodding it around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimsin View Post
    For all you n/a guy's without a tune running on 91 it wasting your money
    Couldn't agree more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke14 View Post
    Couldn't agree more.

    disagree....Girlfriend has a malibu and my sister has a G6 both with the 3.5L. scanned both on 87 and seen 7-9*kr filled em both with 93 and rescanned 0* across the board . While its not as beneficial as it would be with a tune, it still helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by djrepoman View Post
    disagree....Girlfriend has a malibu and my sister has a G6 both with the 3.5L. scanned both on 87 and seen 7-9*kr filled em both with 93 and rescanned 0* across the board . While its not as beneficial as it would be with a tune, it still helps
    Yes in cases such as that (where you see a lot of KR), 93 would be benificial and you WILL see performance gains because the computer wouldn't have to pull timing.

    Otherwise, putting premium in an N/A is pretty much worthless. And it WILL decrease your gas mileage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djrepoman View Post
    disagree....Girlfriend has a malibu and my sister has a G6 both with the 3.5L. scanned both on 87 and seen 7-9*kr filled em both with 93 and rescanned 0* across the board . While its not as beneficial as it would be with a tune, it still helps
    That's a 3.5L not a 3800. Either way, kinda a waist of money . I still agree with blueguy and Grimsin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimsin View Post
    For all you n/a guy's without a tune running on 91 it wasting your money,.
    This.

    Most people still don't understand what octane does.

    Octane is NOT a power adder.
    Higher octane does NOT burn cleaner than lower octane from the same place.
    Running more octane than necessary will HURT gas mileage.


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    It really depends on the car. The 04+ cars definately benefit from it because they had a lot of extra timing and would knock easily on 87. Using higher octane reduces some of the knock and gives you more power.
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    04+ n/ a cars make the same power as 03 under I thought. I researched some sites and they say they make the same hp
    Wouldn't be the first time the interwebs was wrong though
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    When I filled up last friday I put in a tank of 93. I just filled up this morning and got 18.6 MPG vs the basement 17's I normally get. My driving style didn't change at all from normal, in fact there were probably a couple of extra WOT pulls in there to see if the high octane made a difference. I wonder if it's a coincidence.
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    Last edited by matt5112; 03-28-2013 at 08:29 AM. Reason: because we had it last week.
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    I always run 93 octane in the Gtp. Always.
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    Depending on the amount of ethanol content in the fuel (its different everywhere), A higher octane rating can decrease your gas mileage.
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