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    Hello all, I guess ill do an intro while im here, my name is Travis Lee Ive been in the military for 4 years now. I live in Wilkes Barre PA and just recently bought a 2005 grand prix with a 3800 series III naturally aspirated (L36? I believe) just traded my 01 grand am SE1 in for it. I'm not a noob when it comes to engines but im not a mad gear head like my father was. I wouldn't be on here if my father didn't pass away last month he would have helped me with anything on my new car. Anyway Ive been searching for 2 hours now and can't seem to figure out where to start with this engine. I want to know where I should start with it. It has 166k miles on it but the engine is far from beat, all the internals look great and there was absolutely no sludge build up anywhere I looked. Can someone give me a clue where to start modifications to bulk up some HP?

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    You have a L26. Before we tell you what to do, we need to know your goals.
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    Should I?, its and automatic and I don't want to beat the **** out of the transmission...This is great its like an active convo..just what i needed, i think ill donate to the bandwidth cause
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    320-350 HP (being realistic)when I'm finished, I need to do it step by step and Im giving myself a 4-6 month goal for completion. When income taxes come im gonna throw it into the engine.
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    TURBO IT
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    How much am I looking at, I know id have to swap pretty much everything from the heads up. Im keeping everything in mind ATM but that is just a (goal)>long term im fine with 260-280 until the army pays me me 20k
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    TO get the numbers i believe you need to.
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    Won't get to 300 HP without some form of forced induction. Turbo is hella expensive. Might wanna look into a top swap.
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    No the L26 is aluminum, it should handle 10psi max although Id take it to someone whose more experience with boosting to confirm anything before I do it. The last thing I want is to push a rod or bend valves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis2244 View Post
    No the L26 is aluminum, it should handle 10psi max although Id take it to someone whose more experience with boosting to confirm anything before I do it. The last thing I want is to push a rod or bend valves.
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    The L26 is a iron block, same as all 3800 motors.

    The rods are the weakest out of all the motors. It can handle some power but are more prone to breaking in higher HP builds.

    I'm going to be blunt, the NA 3800 is not going to be a power house, you would have to add boost to make it something worth while.


    If I was you, make this car cool sounding and lower it and make it handle good. Do a NA cam with supporting mods.

    There is tons of info on this site for mods and what you'll need to make it happen.

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    Thank you for confirming that I was wrong. I don't want to bust anything up, do you think I can make a turbo work?
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    Sweet thanks for confirming. Ill search around the forums before I make any other threads(after I do my rounds, im at work lol), How much do you think I would have to invest to get maybe 260-280HP?
    Going to do rounds ill Be back in 45 minutes. thanks you all for the advice Im now pointed in the right direction.
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    I would read this first if I were you.
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/safel...0-a-67580.html
    A topswap would be the cheapest way get close to where you want to be.
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    Before I do that I just want one last opinion, Should I just save and swap out for the 5.8 V8? It should fit but Id pretty much have to gut everything including the wiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis2244 View Post
    Before I do that I just want one last opinion, Should I just save and swap out for the 5.8 V8? It should fit but Id pretty much have to gut everything including the wiring.
    Not even close to being worth it.
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    Yea your right, Id be better off just buying the 5.8 car strait out, it'd be cheaper.
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    buy a supercharged 3800 from a junk yard with low miles. and buy a turbo kit. you wont need to touch the bottom end of a supercharged engine. they are bullet proff
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    dont you think the l26 bottom end will be a little to weak for boost?
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    Turbo Parts & Kits

    theres some kits. a good one can get you more power then you know what to do with
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    Turbo kits run $3000 to $5000. Add a few internals, a transmission or two, and some really nice wheels and you will be set.
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