Need Suggestions on mods for 05 GP GT NON/SC

**matt5112** · 01-03-2012

its not about the car handling over 110.

Its about your incredibly reduced ability to react to dangers in time at those speeds.

Speed limits aren't so the cops can collect money, they're for safety.

**sLpGPGT** · 01-03-2012

Originally Posted by matt5112

cams are far from impossible.

Like I said, read safely modding thread.

By V8 you mean a different car?

If so, it might be best to leave yours stock as to keep it more reliable and save money for the other vehicle.

yea i was thinking that but im gonna get a loan for my next car (GTO) so i dont need to save to much and im really into racing and very impatient so thats also y i wanna lightly mod my car to at least heads and a tune along with the exhaust and intake wich i alrdy have, to hold me over till few years untill i get another loan for the GTO

**sLpGPGT** · 01-03-2012

Originally Posted by matt5112

its not about the car handling over 110.

Its about your incredibly reduced ability to react to dangers in time at those speeds.

Speed limits aren't so the cops can collect money, they're for safety.

yea true, i mean im not planning on going 160 or something i just wanna get it up to at least 120 cause every car out there pretty much passes me when races go onto log run cause of limiter

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 01-04-2012

**dmahlikGT** · 01-04-2012

Ok so are you still lookng for performance lol.You say your budget is 1500, do you have good skill under the hood and want maximum power?If so maybe consider top swap.You can get a whole setup for under a grand and have money for extra things like headers, gauges, etc. Or do you just wanna stick with N/A with bolt ons? Theres a few paths you can take ER rockers which is a great mod adds a nice amount of power, headers or plog-bigger downpipe if you want simpler.Then Hv3 which is the next biggest power adder.Theres other lil things you can add but overall those are great and will give you more power.You can also cam if you so choose.I believe a GT2 cam setup with a nice tune can get you 50+whp.

**sLpGPGT** · 01-04-2012

Originally Posted by dmahlikGT

Ok so are you still lookng for performance lol.You say your budget is 1500, do you have good skill under the hood and want maximum power?If so maybe consider top swap.You can get a whole setup for under a grand and have money for extra things like headers, gauges, etc. Or do you just wanna stick with N/A with bolt ons? Theres a few paths you can take ER rockers which is a great mod adds a nice amount of power, headers or plog-bigger downpipe if you want simpler.Then Hv3 which is the next biggest power adder.Theres other lil things you can add but overall those are great and will give you more power.You can also cam if you so choose.I believe a GT2 cam setup with a nice tune can get you 50+whp.

cant find cams for my car, its impossible, and i was thinkin heads, HV3 and ER rockers with tune that sounds pretty good to me, wat exactly does a top swap do tho?

**matt5112** · 01-04-2012

You're seriously not trying hard enough.

**KeithGTP03** · 01-04-2012

Originally Posted by sLpGPGT

so i wanna get it to at least 260HP area

You're not gonna get 260HP out of a N/A 3800 unless you join a sponsored race team or wanna dump a chit load of money into it, where as a top swap would be cheaper to achieve those numbers.

**sLpGPGT** · 01-04-2012

Originally Posted by KeithGTP03

You're not gonna get 260HP out of a N/A 3800 unless you join a sponsored race team or wanna dump a chit load of money into it, where as a top swap would be cheaper to achieve those numbers.

i would do a top swap if u knew wtf it was or did haha

**sLpGPGT** · 01-04-2012

Originally Posted by matt5112

You're seriously not trying hard enough.

even if i get a cam id need to get pulleys to n **** i dont really dont wanna spend tons of money into the car just about 1500-1700

**KeithGTP03** · 01-04-2012

Originally Posted by sLpGPGT

i would do a top swap if u knew wtf it was or did haha

You didnt read the Safely Modifying a 3800 thread. http://www.grandprixforums.net/safel...car-17482.html
All your questions will be answered there, you just need to take the time and read, bro.

**TheNoob23** · 01-04-2012

usrsbro? stop being ignorant and listen to what people are telling you

EVERYTHING that you COULD do in your budget has already been listed in this thread and in the safely modding thread and there are atleast 5 different NA cams that you could choose from so stop you're whining... starting to wonder if you're going for the 2012 troll of the year award

**sLpGPGT** · 01-04-2012

Originally Posted by KeithGTP03

You didnt read the Safely Modifying a 3800 thread. http://www.grandprixforums.net/safel...car-17482.html
All your questions will be answered there, you just need to take the time and read, bro.

i skimmed through it but ight man ty

**sLpGPGT** · 01-04-2012

Originally Posted by TheNoob23

usrsbro? stop being ignorant and listen to what people are telling you

EVERYTHING that you COULD do in your budget has already been listed in this thread and in the safely modding thread and there are atleast 5 different NA cams that you could choose from so stop you're whining... starting to wonder if you're going for the 2012 troll of the year award

all i did was tell ppl what i wanted and wanted to change i just repeated it a million times u dumb j-a-c-k-a-s-s

**dmahlikGT** · 01-04-2012

Just sayin it is possible to squeeze 260hp out of a N/A there have been people with 205-210whp on stock heads but with every bolt on cam included and even coming close with ER rockers.And if my math is right thats about 260hp.But anyway OP top swap is just basically slapping a GTP's supercharged setup onto your N/A car.It takes some work but can be done and with just headers,intake and tune your at your hp goal already.

**matt5112** · 01-04-2012

OP, clean up your language.

It is not appreciated by any means.

**blueguy** · 01-04-2012

Originally Posted by sLpGPGT

i skimmed through it but ight man ty

Skimming doesn't = reading.

So you probably missed everything you need to READ and LEARN.

It is obvious you probably didn't even skim it by the questions you keep asking.

Also, like Matt said...watch that posting style.

Carry on.

**BillBoost37** · 01-04-2012

Moderator pig pile!!!!!

OP. You say cams are impossible to find, yet I referenced you to the name of the cam that would be good for what you are trying to do. You say you want more top end, yet you don't seem to realize that until you mod further the only thing likely to happen from pushing an NA high in rpms for extended periods of time is blowing the motor. Our motors do not like to be held in high rpm for long periods of time in stock form. Your stock engine would likely run out of steam around 110-115mph depending on gearing.

Please..take a few moments to go back and reread your thread. All your questions were answered and there's really no need to start the bad language.

**tod1d** · 01-04-2012

if 260hp is your goal then install the super charger, that is a top swap

**sLpGPGT** · 01-04-2012

Originally Posted by dmahlikGT

Just sayin it is possible to squeeze 260hp out of a N/A there have been people with 205-210whp on stock heads but with every bolt on cam included and even coming close with ER rockers.And if my math is right thats about 260hp.But anyway OP top swap is just basically slapping a GTP's supercharged setup onto your N/A car.It takes some work but can be done and with just headers,intake and tune your at your hp goal already.

sounds nice, ill read into it, thanks man

Originally Posted by tod1d

if 260hp is your goal then install the super charger, that is a top swap

yea i may consider that sounds like my best option

Originally Posted by bluegtp91

Skimming doesn't = reading.

So you probably missed everything you need to READ and LEARN.

It is obvious you probably didn't even skim it by the questions you keep asking.

Also, like Matt said...watch that posting style.

Carry on.

will do, srry man but i hate when ppl come at me like thenoob23 did not gonna take that i came on here asking questions/re-telling ppl what i wanted n stuff

Originally Posted by matt5112

OP, clean up your language.

It is not appreciated by any means.

srry bro, but i hate when ppl (TheNoob23) come at me when especially when he thinks im whining and being ignorant like wtf? lol, all i was doing was asking questions and re-telling ppl what i wanted and wanted to change mutliple times just so i can get the best answers which i alrdy have thanks to everyone here, only time i became ignorant when thenoob started talking but again my bad man