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    i have a 2004 grand prix gt with 193000km so like 120k miles, i have a brown sludge in my coolant (allot) and im wondering wath it could be, intake gasket? crack head?

    sorry for my english , im french
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    a coolent flush will fix..just old coolent that got broken down over time and turned brown

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpzelenak View Post
    a coolent flush will fix..just old coolent that got broken down over time and turned brown

    i will try to take a pic, hope it could be just that!
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    is it all brown and sluggy?.. and whats the bottom of the radator cap look like?

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    the coolant is still red but with a a kinda brown liquid in it, its all gummy ,my radiator cap is a little gummy too with the brown ****
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    yea it just need to be changed out, has the coolent ever been changed?

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    i have no idea i will do a flush tomorow and will see , thank you
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    If someone owned the car before you they could have had a coolant leak and put radiator sealent in. This will eventually turn brown and sluggy like you are describing. Not sure how long you have owned it though. Either way a coolant flush wouldnt hurt!
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    Same thing with my 98 gt.. I was told it was oil getting into the reservoir via the LIM? Flushed it, and later that day it was the same color
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt7 View Post
    radiator sealent
    Unlikely, as his description is a dead-ringer for bad Dexcool. Your car was low on coolant at some point or has a leak, which caused air to get into the cooling system. This air reacted with the iron, created iron oxide, and that reacted with the Dexcool to make an Old Bay Seasoning kind of sludge.

    Since your GP is a 2004, you have a nylon lower intake manifold (LIM) gasket. Starting in 2005, GM began using aluminum lower intake manifold gaskets because the nylon ones were faulty - they would melt and crack, allowing oil into the coolant and coolant into the oil (coolant in your oil is a very bad thing). By 120,000 miles, you definitely need the aluminum gasket.

    There are plenty of threads on the subject; just use the search function. There's even a video on how to do it yourself - otherwise, most shops will bill the job as 6-8 hours of work, plus parts.
    Irridium spark plugs last 100k mi and work just as well as copper. Copper is a waste on N/A and only lasts 15k mi. Don't use Platinum.
    Use 195* tstat unless you can thoroughly explain why not; 99.9% don't need a lower temp.
    Almost any oil filter, ever, is of higher quality than ACDelco. Spend $6+.
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