I bet i can take you both :-) and from a roll it will be even better! the DOHC isnt known for its low end but my tuning fixes most of that. add in my gear swap and it is a mean car... too bad my trany is showing its age again. Its time for the engine swap to the L67 finally. my DOHC has given 221,000 Miles and still seems bullet proof. but has a killer streak for trany's soooo i will be joining the 3800 club :-)