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06-12-2010
Well most people sell the parts from 250-500 then you need the gaskets which run around 200. Then if you want to port the TB, SC, or LIM your looking at anywhere from 100-200 more. Then you need oil and what not so like 40+ more then if you dont have a boost gauge you should get one of those and a place to mount it.. It all adds up.. Most people recommend headers so thats 220 moreOriginally Posted by Storm
06-12-2010
I've got a wideband that I tune with, you just need to keep the stock rear O2 bung in.
And if you need ANY more gaskets and want them GM, hit me up, I work at a dealer, remember?
I'm almost home, staying in STL for the evening, and then I'll be back on Monday if you wanna meet up.
06-12-2010
Wait a second. Can you get those gaskets less then 200? Like do you receive a discount? I'd imagine so. Oh and yes monday ill be bring my stuff down.. I want you too look at my Blower I have some questions on its condition.I've got a wideband that I tune with, you just need to keep the stock rear O2 bung in.
And if you need ANY more gaskets and want them GM, hit me up, I work at a dealer, remember?
I'm almost home, staying in STL for the evening, and then I'll be back on Monday if you wanna meet up.
06-12-2010
You're basically needing a whole upper gasket set, correct?
Heads, LIM, Valve Covers, o-rings, and then SC? I should be able to get it for quite a bit less than 200, but again, I'll have to wait until I can look it up at work. I'm thinking in the $160 range for it all. You'll have to get head studs somewhere like ZZP though, I can't get them for near the price they sell. Although I really have nothing against the stock TTY bolts honestly.
06-12-2010
Well this is what I was told i needed plus you've done the swap you should know right
Plus valve cover gaskets
06-13-2010
Brian's done a top swap before?
06-13-2010
maybe a couple in this lifeBrian's done a top swap before?
06-13-2010
Ok so i ordered my aeroforce, boost and oil press gauge, gauge pod, and all my gaskets yesterday. Today I ordered my speed daddy headers. What size clamps should i get and how many?
06-13-2010
you need 2 3" clamps for downpipe. and 2 2 1/4" clamps for the crossover, and a tube of copper rtv.
06-13-2010
hey man i just finally got done doing a top swap on my car and as of now i have a successful top swap, speed daddy headers, 4" fenderwell intake, custom street tune, and a 3.4" pulley. with the right tune you'll be able to get a smaller pulley on there with no problems but make sure you get those headers on before you try to drop sizes!!!! and also i had fouled my spark plugs with ac delco 103's and i was told to go to platinum 104's and havent had any problem since!!!..enjoy it man...its a blast to finally have some boost!!...lol...oh and i did mine on an 03 Monte Carlo not a grand prix but basically the exact same minus body style!!
06-13-2010
Yea i got the headers they are going on asap and I don't think im dropping pulleys yet so i dont throw more money into my car. Ill probably drop after a month or so of driving if i can get a deal on a MPS
06-14-2010
so you're running like 10* of timing? or you're just lucky
Last edited by matt5112; 06-14-2010 at 01:28 PM.
06-14-2010
well when i first got everything hooked up just top swap wise with the standard 3.8 it was running horrible and it was slower than any car out there...it took like a minute just to get to 60 and i was throwin all sorts of codes...come to find out the pcm was all messed up originially and i had even sent it away to get a mail tune from 3800 performance but it was runnning like 19* of timing....i dont know if you guys know of a guy named tim who used to work for intense racing but he now works at a place in dayton ohio called TKO performance...he took it and made it so it was running right along with installing some headers and he said it would be safe to drop pulley size so i got a 3.5 inch pulley and he didnt have a hub that would fit it so he just put on a 3.4 pulley and did all the tuning afterwards...i'm thinking he said i'm running like 12-15 degrees of timing but dont mark my words!!!...it's quick...thats all i know...lol
06-14-2010
15 isn't bad since thats 16* because your cam is one degree advanced, but less than that is bad.
And you really shouldnt have driven your car with a top swap without a proper tune.
06-14-2010
oh yeah trust me i know...but 3800 performance programmed their "top swap" setup onto the PCM and it was supposed to be able to run right.......but it didnt...after i realized it was completely messed up and not running right, i took it to a shop and he got it in as soon as he could which was like a week later....it ran pretty good as long as you stayed out of the throttle...also when it wasnt running right, i was lucky enough to not have any engine knock...it was just a messed up situation!!! but its fixed now!! I got a race against a mustang fox body that runs a 13.5 on drag radials but we're doin it on the street...lol i've been told i should be able to take him but i guess we'll see!!
06-15-2010
LOL no, you might run high 13's.
06-15-2010
Its about to be christmas in the gafford house hold
06-15-2010
Headers? When are you doing the Top Swap?
06-15-2010
ur prolly right...but as long as he sits there and spins i'm game with that!!..and besides thats a **** ton better than the like 15.4 i used to run before i did the swap!!!
06-15-2010
Is that headers to me? Mine are on their way. And once i decide where im going to do the swap.
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