now about the guy that said f23 accords are faster than the j30, i think not. i raced 2 many of those in my accord and they couldnt hang. even with there 5 speed trannys. now about an ls b18, he is rite until u get 2 top end, then the extra 2 cylinders in the accord finally do something. they are not very fast, just a daily driver that i stopped racing cause i dont wanna have to replace the tranny. i do the racing in the gtp.