Thread: Got ****ed in the ass by my Dad

You are best off finding motor and tranny together....if this is the route you want to take

Originally Posted by timothylockhart

@russosaur is that motor plug and play for the most part?

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Eh I really don't know lol

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Originally Posted by timothylockhart

@russosaur is that motor plug and play for the most part?

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It's plug and play but it's far easier to drop the motor and trans together through the bottom than it is to disconnect the motor and pull it through the top

I think the harness is different yeah

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Engine trans engine harness and pcm from a 99-02 gtp would be best bet.

Originally Posted by loopy smurf

Cool - follow Scotty's method, and you should be good. But just to ease your mind a bit...it would be rare for the head gasket to be toast on a 3.1...but those engines chew through LIM gaskets with a fair amount of regularity. The 3.4 would eat head gaskets, but my 3.1s never did.

Hope the coolant flush helps, and we can start working on your other issues then.

Loopy the 60* V6s are all know for having head gasket issues.

Originally Posted by timothylockhart

I knew i wanted a 3800 I was strong armed into buying Joe. I did my research

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If your dad thinks driving 30 minutes to see a car is a reason to have to buy it then he has more issues than any of us know. Many people here have driven hours to look at cars only to turn around and go home empty handed.

My parents drove to Florida to buy a GP lol so that should say something.

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Originally Posted by timothylockhart

It was a bad day

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Give the keys to your dad and be like "fix the peice of **** you bought me" I bet that would go well.

Thats the spirit, welcome to GP ownership lol.

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Originally Posted by Slick2500

Loopy the 60* V6s are all know for having head gasket issues.

*3100/3400 are known for head gasket issues. The early 2.8, 3.1 and 3.4DOHC 60°s are not.

Originally Posted by timothylockhart

Haha... Is be singing a different tune if u had a 3800

Nah, they're turds too. It's just that most 3800 owners don't like to admit it. Either that, or they've never experienced a car with some actual balls.


It is rather unfortunate that your dad strong-armed you into buying this thing. Given everything that is wrong with it, it's a $1k - $1,500 car at best. Agreed that the best thing you can do at this point is just fix up what you can as cheaply as possible, and drive it till a catastrophic failure happens.

Scotty, are you saying oil can't get into the coolant if the head gasket fails between an oil and coolant passage? Before I bought my previous GTP, I test drove a GTX that looked to have oil in the radiator and coolant reservoir (extremely dark brown to black).

Wow...one time my dad and I drove 2 hours to see a 1992 Chevy Cavalier Z24 and we didn't buy it. I bought a 1987 Ford Thunderbird with 66,000 miles on it in 2003....you and your father need to talk LOL.

Listen to scotty.

Originally Posted by RareGMFan

Scotty, are you saying oil can't get into the coolant if the head gasket fails between an oil and coolant passage? Before I bought my previous GTP, I test drove a GTX that looked to have oil in the radiator and coolant reservoir (extremely dark brown to black).

its so rare that the oil passage run down from the top of the head would ever meet a bad coolant port, and then let oil into the coolant, coolant is under way more pressure in the heads.

its almost impossible to happen. unless you have a oil cooler in the rad, then it can happen if the cooler breaks. but id think the coolant in the engine would be a bigger problem really cause if its pushing oil out, its also sucking coolant back into the engine.