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  1. #1 Acceptable tcc slip rpm 
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    Curious when scanning what is an acceptable amount , if any , of tcc slip? While cruising or under wide open throttle ?
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    It should be close to none when locked in 4th gear.

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    I don't think I let it shift into 4th under wot but I will check my 4th locked slip. Thanks !
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    Well you wouldnt want to shift into OD at full throttle anyway.

    But while locked in 4th on the freeway, slip should be very very small or none at all.

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    Yeah lol I know that

    I was just concerned at the top 3rd wide open I though I saw slip rpm show up
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    I was showing about 1650 taking off normally and locked up in 4th gear was about 20-30 rpm. I'm curious about this too and was going to ask the same thing. Under full throttle launches I would see a peak of 1950 or so.

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    Slip depends a lot on the lockup strategy and converter clutches. Then factor in all the other various items the pcm sees and you end up with a little slip here or there depending on what is going on.
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    pcm will command anywhere from 0 to 150 rpm slip depending on the load at tcc "apply"

    its mainly to minimize NVH and isnt used on my crap, i set lockup to 100% duty cycle and deal with the "5th shift" and sometimes the lugging vibration at low rpm's in 3rd/4th (where you can almost feel the individual cylinders firing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbocharged400sbc View Post
    pcm will command anywhere from 0 to 150 rpm slip depending on the load at tcc "apply"

    its mainly to minimize NVH and isnt used on my crap, i set lockup to 100% duty cycle and deal with the "5th shift" and sometimes the lugging vibration at low rpm's in 3rd/4th (where you can almost feel the individual cylinders firing
    I'd like to see your apply/release tables. I've been only getting kr when the tcc locks at low rpms and having a hard time tuning it out.
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    Very strange issue here as well. The more you dig into the throttle while the convertor is locked , I occasionally would see 1-2* kr before it would release. Now you can adjust it to release early but I kept it the same because something odd happened.
    Once I filled the intercooler and ran it, it never came back.
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    What do you mean by "something odd"?
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    Bob,

    Open bin file, insert my trans settings, Close bin file and load.
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    I told you the "odd" part - once I filled my IC and ran it, it never came back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    Bob,

    Open bin file, insert my trans settings, Close bin file and load.
    i could try and mess around with it again but my release / apply was tweaked many times - I just put it back to stock. I liked no lock up ever in 3rd too.

    Bill I gotta find your Dropbox again. Cause I would like to see your "boost" gauge in HPT .....
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    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/npa8brtuzoq3qps/jqYuBP0cv- love that trans tune. but you have no perf shift button, so you have to move the perf shift files to the normal files .

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    Hmmm, not odd to me I guess. Pretty much expected.
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    Well odd to me cause tbere was hardly any boost coming from the blower.
    which leads me to another question about PE. I can make boost under certain conditions before entering 40% throttle which is what my PE is set to - so 1-3lbs at a stoich AFR no kr .... Again all with the apply / release tables and why I dropped 3rd lock up all together.


    Scorty those hose files for 3.29s?
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    if you have your tranny wroked like one of them valve bodys, use the trand file from bills regal.

    if not theres another one in his name folder, or i could email you a bin with the trans tune to keep the searching down.

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    I'll be home at noon thirty today and will look at it if you want to send it
    thanks!
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    Load trans settings
    Search on the usual BillBoost "ea sy" and then adjust for 3.29's.

    Ohhhh the 10 min this might take. It's painful
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