Seeing the road

**TNTtransam** · 01-19-2014

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

They're worth every single penny. You do enjoy seeing where you driving right IMO this is a must have upgrade. Hid in stock reflector will glare oncoming drivers yea you can aim them a bit low but there's still going to be glare. I'm sure there's a few douche bags in your area that run just hids and if you ever drive past them notice the glare they produce. It's a bad plague I wish more cops would ticket for it. I use to be that guy that thought I can careless less about other drivers as long as I can see until I've had to experience what I was doing to other drivers. Hell I'm using halogens now until I finish my next retrofit build. If you have time and are willing to take the time to do it yourself but you really can't beat Classys prices. I've build and sold a few of my old sets locally before and it's pretty time consuming to get them right.

Yes, i see them all the time. I live in Philly and you can basically do anything illegal to your car and there is no way you will get pulled over for it. I know a guy who has a tinted front windshield for god's sakes, never been pulled over.

**TNTtransam** · 01-19-2014

I really just need to decide something in the near future because I like cannot see at night. It's definitely between HIDs or retrofits now

**REDCRAPGP** · 01-19-2014

It's bad around here especially with lifted trucks and these so called tuner cars.

**TNTtransam** · 01-19-2014

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

It's bad around here especially with lifted trucks and these so called tuner cars.

Same here

**TNTtransam** · 01-19-2014

Another question, for HIDs, I understand that the are different temperatures, but does a higher temperature mean more light output or just a different color?

**machinegunsquid** · 01-19-2014

HIDs in a stock housing will be a quick and dirty fix. Ebay/VVME/DDM are cheap and usually work alright (still rocking some VVME's in my fog lights for over a year) Though they are hit or miss.

HIDs from TRS will be much higher quality, warm up WAAAYYY faster, be brighter, and last way longer. Still not going to give you the best usable light, but will be a quick, dirty, quality fix.

Retrofits from TRS are the end-all to headlights. It's more expensive, more time consuming (unless you get them from Classy) and way more awesome. It will give you the best usable light, and you will be inducted into the GPF.net retrofit club of awesome buddies for life.

**REDCRAPGP** · 01-19-2014

You can do a more budget friendly retro if you like

Cheapo hid kit (just keep in mind it may be a hit or miss)

Older mini h1
-http://www.theretrofitsource.com/closeouts/generic-h1-bi-xenon-projectors.html

-morimoto h1 bulbs

-you can use your stock headlights but I suggest just getting a brand new pair so you still have your original if you ever have a problem you have a stock pair to use during

That's the basics

**machinegunsquid** · 01-19-2014

Originally Posted by TNTtransam

Another question, for HIDs, I understand that the are different temperatures, but does a higher temperature mean more light output or just a different color?

The higher the number, the less lumen output. 4300K will be the brightest, followed by 5000k, then 6000k and so on. TRS wont sell above 6000k because of the lack of light output

**TNTtransam** · 01-19-2014

Dammit, why couldn't these cars have just been made with decent headlights.

**machinegunsquid** · 01-19-2014

Cause 90s-2000s GM

**TNTtransam** · 01-19-2014

On a related note, my dad just got a new sierra pick up with projector headlights and they're pretty impressive and make me want to lean that direction.

**REDCRAPGP** · 01-19-2014

^ you won't want to go back. Once I retrofitted I hated driving anything without some type of projector in them

**machinegunsquid** · 01-19-2014

^ same. I don't think a single person has even been upset at a retrofit (other than maybe cost)

You wont want to drive a car without them.

**TNTtransam** · 01-19-2014

Originally Posted by machinegunsquid

Cause 90s-2000s GM

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

^ you won't want to go back. Once I retrofitted I hated driving anything without some type of projector in them

alright well I m definitely more on the retrofit side now. I just need to find out how to gather up the money. And if I can't I think I m just going to go with the dreaded HIDs.

**REDCRAPGP** · 01-19-2014

^ sell drugs, be a stripper, em sell your test tube babies, etc etc haha

**Russosaur** · 01-19-2014

Only real downside in stock housings is no high beams imo

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**REDCRAPGP** · 01-19-2014

You don't need that crap with hids or with a retrofit

**TNTtransam** · 01-19-2014

So is this what I would need for retrofit? http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...l#.UtypJec8KK0

**TNTtransam** · 01-19-2014

And HIDs would be this right? http://www.theretrofitsource.com/hid...l#.Utyriec8KK0

**Russosaur** · 01-19-2014

Don't get the bi xenon kit for stock housings. The high beams are non existent.

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