Ok, Thank you Jason.
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Ok, Thank you Jason.
I'm still in for getting a set, but will be towards the end of the month when payment will be sent to you. (through paypal)
Thanks for putting up the pictures in the post a few pages back. From those pictures...what ones are black, and what ones are chrome? They both kinda look the same to me.
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A reeeeeally quick question here....
If someone were to want the standard halogen to start off with, then how difficult would it be to order/install an HID kit farther down the road? Will there be details on what bulbs to use or will it not be able to be done?
Andrew, you're welcome!
Farns, not exactly sure which pics you're referring to, but I'll try to help. The original night light output pics are chrome with HIDs on passenger side and black with halogen on driver side. The batch of closeups on chr0mius' white GP are the black housing. The garage output pics are black housing with included halogens. Any of the later or updated pics of his car are black housings.
Brian, lights are plug and play. You can go to or return from HIDs at any time. H1 halogen or HIDs for low beam and 9005 halogen for the high beam (which technically you could put HIDs in as well).
My black projectors should be here tomorrow, but I'm going out of town so I won't see them until Sunday afternoon at least. Not on my computer or I would post more install pics on other GPs. I will have my halos wired to the parking lights (I've always run with fogs and PL during the day), DRLs disabled, have the alarm flash switched from headlights to parking lights, running it so lows stay on with highs, and using 5000k HIDs for lows. Probably won't install right away until a couple tweaks are complete.
got mine today. Fedex delieverd them to my neighbors today. He brought them over about 2-3hrs later... So i didn't have time to put them in.
there's no modding that's needed to be done. so it would be the same as isntalling hid's on ure stock headlights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reptile
Just letting you know, you have about 1.5 weeks left before the group buy goes bye bye ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GR8racingfool
all quiet on the gpf.net front? :P
LowlyfeGTP how do you set it up so you can run with both highs and lows, and also how do you wire it so that you can have the alarm flash PL only and not headlights? any tutorials or write ups?
I am by no means an expert when it comes to Projectors, wiring, etc. I will answer the best I can with others info I have picked up here and CGP. I personally plan to run H1 HIDs and 9005 Halogens, halos will be wired into the PL, low beams will stay on with high beams, alarm flash will be parking lights no headlights.Quote:
Originally Posted by GOINDEF
Here goes, I will try to credit the members originally posting this info.
Parking Light Flash
Parking lights alarm flash, for those with HIDs: (BackInBlack)
Modification to re-route the acknowledgement headlamp flashes from the theft deterrant relay to the parking lights...
This should do it: (Disconnect battery before performing surgery on the car!)
1) Find the theft deterrant relay in the driver's side kick panel. It will have 1 or 2 orange wires, a white wire, and a YELLOW wire in the harness.
2) Cut the yellow wire, and splice it into the BROWN wire at the headlamp switch. (See diagram below)
3) Tape up the YELLOW wire that runs back into the body harness. When the headlights are on, this wire will become live, and we don't want it shorting out and causing a fire. Also be sure your splice is insulated as well.
The YELLOW wire is located on the connector in the driver's kick panel for the theft deterrant relay. (I can't show you pics, because I do not have this relay in my car.)
The BROWN wire is at the headlamp switch connector, pin R.
Do not cut any yellow wires in the headlamp switch harness.
That should do it! Since the parking lights are isolated by the relay contacts, no isolation diodes are necessary.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ts/Om33676.jpg
2001-2003
Cut the WHITE wire at pin D11 on the BCM. Insulate the car side. Tie the BCM side of the wire to one side of a standard 30A 12v automotive relay coil. Tie the other side of the coil to the NO contact of the relay AND the ORANGE wire at pin O on the headlamp switch. Tie the common (COM) of the relay contact to the BROWN wire at pin R on the headlamp switch. Bridge across the relay coil with a 1N4004 diode to protect the BCM output. The stripe side of the diode is oriented towards the ORANGE headlamp wire.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...001PLflash.jpg
Highs/Lows On At The Same Time
Highs(9005)/Lows(HIDs) On Simultaneously (Chunkee)
No pictures for now, just some wiring insight
For those who choose to do HID lows and HID highs, very simple
Run one set of ballasts for low beams with a wiring (relay) harness connected to the OEM headlight connector so DRL's will work (this allows the correct voltage to get to the headlights without killing the ballasts with low voltage). Use one side (passenger or driver) for this. I am using Bi-Xenon wiring harness for lows (more on that in a sec)
Run second set of ballasts for high beams off the OEM headlight connector (on the other side not used for low beams) by swapping the wires in the wiring harness (on mine it goes red, black, blue. Swap the red and blue around so low is high and high is low)
By using the bi-xenon wiring harness you can have both lows and highs on at the same time
Also, using the bi-xenon wiring harness allows for both low and high HID lights to be on at the same time because that is the way the Bi-Xenons work...all it does is trigger the magnet part to move, unhook that connector for the magnet and low or high position results in lows always being on. Wire in another harness for just the highs and low = low and high = low and highs at same time, just remember to swap the low and high beam wires in the high beam OEM adapter or low = low and highs and high = low
Harness: Ebay:
hid wiring harness, Parts Accessories, Car Electronics items on eBay.com
I guess you could always just use both the low and the high beam wires off the OEM adapter (green and oarnge-brown) for the lows that way the turn-on signal the wiring harness gets will shift from low to high when highs are turned on. I just do not know if the bulbs will turn off then on again in that scenario (like if you were to hold the high beams on, there is a pause sometimes when switching between low and high) then use just the high beam wire for the high beam HIDs.
(Mike Levy) If you don't run the harness to feed the lights from the battery, you are going to have times when one doesn't ignite or stay lit. The factory wiring isn't thick enough to provide the power needed to light and keep them both on, unless conditions are perfect.
(Chunkee) Plus when your DRL's are on, that is a lower voltage and will destroy a ballast before you know it.
Always use harnesses
High(9005)/Low(HIDs) on Simultaneously (99 Black GT)
this is a VERY basic drawing. You would need a relay for each headlight (technically you could get away with only using one, but i wouldn't) It's best to pick up a relay socket, and put an electrically conductive grease on it so it doesn't corrode. And then i run NEW wires, from the fuse block, to make sure i get full voltage to the HID's (much like the SUV harnesses)
on the relay it'self, the connections would be as follows
85:: Ground
86:: Diode isolated Low + High wires together
30:: To the HID ballast
87:: From the fused +12 you get from your fuse box
relays are cheap, the diodes wouldn't have to be any more than a 1 amp rectifier diode (cheap) and enough wire for new grounds and getting power from the fuse box. The new harness could probably be done for under $15 for the pair of headlights. Or less if you're a good shopper.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ts/Mu61127.jpg
Another Possibility
High/Low, flash to pass. (BackInBlack)
The diagram below is for use with underhood relay harness only, or the HID low/ halogen high 9007-2 setup. Forest fires may result from using this mod with halogen bulbs installed on stock wiring.
9007-1: Single HID burner.
9007-2: Single HID burner w/ halogen high.
9007-3: Single HID burner w/ tilt or retracting action for high mode.
9007-4: DUAL HID burner (Bi-Xenon) one for low, one for high.
There is a solution that will turn the lows and highs on at the same time, but also make it so the 'flash to pass' will only turn on the highs. Just follow this wiring diagram by BackInBlack.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ts/highlow.jpg
How are the new projector housings wired? Are there SEPARATE ground wires for the highs and lows? If there is only one ground, you should NOT have the high beams and low beams on at the same time unless the ground wire is 10AWG or better and the connections are rated for such.
**Again, I can not vouch for the above info. Provided info is for use with H1 HIDs in projectors.**
Man, I'm trying to save up.....saving saving saving.
WOW WOW WOW, these headlights are killer, I just put them in yeesterday at work, and all the students were lovin them. They were sayin how my car looks sweet with the halos cause it kinda has a demon eye effect. Ill try and get some night shots up with the next few days, but here's one just after I got done putting them on
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...23_69_full.jpg
looks good, wish I had some money, my car needs them
^^agree wish i had the money right now
lookin good. :th_thumb-up:Quote:
Originally Posted by GOINDEF
Dude... Jason.. You're the fuccin man. I swear. I wish every forum had someone like you. You go above and fuccin way beyond.. :th_beer-toast1:Quote:
Originally Posted by LowlyfeGTP
Hmm ... perhaps the ratio of people who want to learn to fish vs those who want you to give them fish is better on this forum .....
Analogies > Me.
However, this has nothing to do with which forum etc etc..
this is Jason. He's the ****in man.. on clubgp.com/grandprixforum.net/grandprix.net (not sure if ure on there).. he's the man. i owe him a lot.
GOINDEF, Glad you like the lights. Checked out your cardomain, nice GP!! Looks like you do good work. You working at a school now? Never know might have to send you some business in the future. Are those cameras front and rear?Quote:
Originally Posted by GOINDEF
Thanks John. I truly appreciate it and am humbled. Cars are my passion and I do view car enthusiasts as "my community". I'm a Pontiac guy, always have been, but I'm not tied down to any one area. I have gained alot from hot rods, imports, etc.Quote:
Dude... Jason.. You're the fuccin man. I swear. I wish every forum had someone like you. You go above and fuccin way beyond..
Yes, I'm a member of 30+ GP related forums. I haven't been on GPN for a little while though. I spend most of my time on GPF and CGP, then float between all my others now and then. Too much going on these days to dedicate anymore time. I'll say this is by far my favorite forum as far as community. It's a new forum and I hope it grows and becomes extremely active, while maintaining the atmosphere.Quote:
However, this has nothing to do with which forum etc etc..
this is Jason. He's the ****in man.. on clubgp.com/grandprixforum.net/grandprix.net (not sure if ure on there).. he's the man. i owe him a lot.
You don't owe me anything and I'm sure I'll be talking to you in the future. I've dealt with aftermarket companies for years off and on with mixed results. I've also been in the auto industry for almost 13 years, but on the OEM side which doesn't really interest me. I love design. Currently enrolling back in school for IT/Web Design. Auto Styling will always be my top passion though.
Anyways, I have no idea what anything I just typed has to do with anything??:th_scratchhead:
Regardless, I enjoy helping others and am pretty skilled at searching. Whether it is info, parts, etc. I can usually track down most stuff so I do. Thanks for all the resources you have dedicated to the GP community. I'm sure it's been a bumpy road and if I've gotten to know CGP at all over the last decade it will get worse before it gets better (most companies don't come back).
Payment was sent Sunday 4/27 for my set of black ones. Cant wait to get them and install them.
These are basically free, with that Government rebate check that will come later in May that most everyone is getting. Already spent my money, and don't even know what I'm getting back yet. LOL
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