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    Quote Originally Posted by BackInBlack View Post
    LEDs are NOT brighter than bulbs in housings designed for bulbs. Same principles apply for installing HIDs into reflector housings. LEDs are a point-source emitter, not a spherical light source like a tungsten filament bulb. The 3457 bulb is the brightest of the 3x57 class of S8 dual-filament bulb. 3157 = 32 MSCD, 3457 = 40 MSCD. By comparison, the 9007 bulb is rated for 80/107 MSCD. You can also modify your flasher module to accommodate LEDs in any combination, rather than hack up your wiring by installing those silly load resistors...
    Its just scary how much you know about these kinds of things. But I am glad you are here to share with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyntheticShield View Post
    See, there you go teasing us again. We need details man, details

    well, lets see ---

    the tail light harness is one plug on the passenger side of the car. you have access to the left, right and ground here. all that needs to be done is get the male and female plug housings (and terminals) (yes these parts are readily available) and the load resistors, and wire up a short extension harness with the load resistors in it, and plug it in. Obviously, you need to be able to mount the load resistors somewhere. i did some looking, and it should be possible to get a fairly inexpensive aluminum box to put them in and attach them, which will also help with heat dissipation.

    if i get the $$ for some decent tail light housings, i'll probably put this together


    anybody wanna donate a good set of tails in exchange for one of these harnesses?
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    Toasty, there was a guy that responded to your parts wanted add for tail lights, might want to see if he will work with ya or see how much he wants for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyntheticShield View Post
    Toasty, there was a guy that responded to your parts wanted add for tail lights, might want to see if he will work with ya or see how much he wants for them.
    the one from earlier this past month? yeah his had a decent amount of delamination
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    I wasnt aware of that. The pictures he posted they looked really good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyntheticShield View Post
    I wasnt aware of that. The pictures he posted they looked really good.

    eh, in any case, more peeps posted
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    bump
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    did anyone ever make a how too guide for this or explain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BackInBlack View Post
    LEDs are NOT brighter than bulbs in housings designed for bulbs. Same principles apply for installing HIDs into reflector housings. LEDs are a point-source emitter, not a spherical light source like a tungsten filament bulb. The 3457 bulb is the brightest of the 3x57 class of S8 dual-filament bulb. 3157 = 32 MSCD, 3457 = 40 MSCD. By comparison, the 9007 bulb is rated for 80/107 MSCD. You can also modify your flasher module to accommodate LEDs in any combination, rather than hack up your wiring by installing those silly load resistors...
    Absolutely correct.

    Food for thought, directly quoted from SuperBrightLEDs.com

    Brightness of LED Car Bulbs
    LED bulbs are generally not as bright as standard incandescent bulbs, they have many advantages over filament bulbs (longer life, faster on/off times, lower power consumption, more vivid colors) but brightness is not one of them. They are generally not as bright but some of them with large numbers of LEDs, will appear brighter than filament bulbs. As an exception, our new 3 Watt and 5 Watt Luxeon LED car bulbs are as bright or brighter than most standard filament car bulbs. The light is distributed differently so they can appear brighter in some applications and not as bright in others, it depends on the size and shape of the bulb housing and reflector.

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    picked up a a set of 3457 bulbs as suggested by BackinBlack and I can say they do make a difference even in my dark housings


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    Autolumination sells a flasher module that will help with the hyperflash experienced with LEDs for those that don't want to mod their existing module.
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    I have the 3457's in my non-tinted housings, and they do make a difference. I also replaced the 194's with 2886X (link), which are significantly brighter (they look brighter than the dim filament of the 3457's).

    For people with window tint that covers the CHMSL (3rd brake light), the 796 (link) (35W) is a lot brighter. They also make a 50W bulb with the same base (795 link), but I don't know if the wiring or housing can handle it.

    Here's a table listing the specs for a lot of smaller bulbs (link).
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    nice thread
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    Has anyone had issues using 3457 instead of 3157 bulbs (melted wires, melted housings, etc)?
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    I've been running all the bulbs I posted in my previous post (3457, 2886x, and 796) for quite some time with no issues.
    Last edited by Warhellride; 03-16-2009 at 07:37 PM. Reason: Word choice
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