Thread: 02 gtp gp vs 06 g6 gtp

This dude keeps telling me his 06 g6 gtp will beat my car by 10 car lengths what is he smoking, then he said it will out run the camaro ss.

He's a retard. End of story

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lol is his name ben me and boostedcompg have a buddy named ben that has a g6gtp thinks his car is fast as **** til i raced him when i was bone stock lol

Does he realize there is no such thing as an 06 GTP? Sure there are supercharged 06 GP's, but the GTP name is gone.

I'd like to add that I hate people who think race fuel can increase horsepower. That is all.

Originally Posted by stealthee

Does he realize there is no such thing as an 06 GTP? Sure there are supercharged 06 GP's, but the GTP name is gone.

its a g6...so yes there is.

Originally Posted by stealthee

Does he realize there is no such thing as an 06 GTP? Sure there are supercharged 06 GP's, but the GTP name is gone.

I'd like to add that I hate people who think race fuel can increase horsepower. That is all.

Race fuel can add Horsepower, Even with out a tuner. Say you have 4 degrees of KR and the race gas eliminates that. Guess what thats more power. But were not talking a huge differance.

Originally Posted by JoRoW99

its a g6...so yes there is.

My bad. I missed the G6 part somehow

Originally Posted by 01gpgt01

Race fuel can add Horsepower, Even with out a tuner. Say you have 4 degrees of KR and the race gas eliminates that. Guess what thats more power. But were not talking a huge differance.

Octane does not add horsepower, period. Octane is knock preventer. If you have knock and the ECU pulls timing then you are not running enough octane to begin with. You could put 100 octane in a car that only needs 93 octane to prevent knock then you will LOSE horsepower.

Originally Posted by stealthee

My bad. I missed the G6 part somehow



Octane does not add horsepower, period. Octane is knock preventer. If you have knock and the ECU pulls timing then you are not running enough octane to begin with. You could put 100 octane in a car that only needs 93 octane to prevent knock then you will LOSE horsepower.

I disagree, Octane in itself doesnt add HP, but its effects do. And most cars come from the factory with Knock retard. The orginal debate was does race fuel increase HP. The answer is yes, if your car has knock retard. Which on this platform, Some cars seeing as much as 6 or more stock then it sure would. We can debate this all week, But the fact is, dump 93 octane in a GTP. Then dump 112 or 116 cam2 in. your gonna make more power on the cam2 if you had some Kr that pulled advancement

Higher octane burns slower.

Originally Posted by 01gpgt01

I disagree, Octane in itself doesnt add HP, but its effects do. And most cars come from the factory with Knock retard. The orginal debate was does race fuel increase HP. The answer is yes, if your car has knock retard. Which on this platform, Some cars seeing as much as 6 or more stock then it sure would.

You can look at it however you want and octane does NOT add horsepower. If you are tuned for a race fuel mix to need 97 octane, then thats what you need to not get knock. If you modifiy the car and are running more boost than pump fuel can handle, then all the octane is doing is preventing knock so the KR doesn't kick in.

Hate to triple post, but I'm going to give you a perfect example.

I've got a good friend with a highly modified 3000GT VR4. He dyno tuned it to a very conservative pump gas tune of 520 whp at around 15 psi, if I remember correctly. He could crank the boost the 30 psi and run 116 octane and see 700 whp.

Did the octane add horsepower? No, the additional boost added the power. The octane only prevented knock so he could run at that power level.

Heres an example of your argument. I put a intake on my car and it added HP, It wasnt the intake that did it was the CFM increase.

But in all actuallity the Intake allowed the CFM to increase. thus adding more power..... Same kinda deal

Its elementary, my dear watson.

Originally Posted by 01gpgt01

Heres an example of your argument. I put a intake on my car and it added HP, It wasnt the intake that did it was the CFM increase.

But in all actuallity the Intake allowed the CFM to increase. thus adding more power..... Same kinda deal

Apples to oranges. The intake allowed it to flow better and got more air into the engine.

Take the KR out of the equation. Lets talk old school muscle. 12:1 compression, etc etc. There's no ECU, no KR. Now run 87 octane in it and its going to be at the same or near the same horsepower level on 87 as it is on 100 octane, but it will be knocking like a MF.

Now go put 100 octane back in and the only difference is no knock. Now tell me octane adds horsepower.

^^ im on this side of the argument. but again its one of those never ending battles

Originally Posted by stealthee

Apples to oranges. The intake allowed it to flow better and got more air into the engine.

Take the KR out of the equation. Lets talk old school muscle. 12:1 compression, etc etc. There's no ECU, no KR. Now run 87 octane in it and its going to be at the same or near the same horsepower level on 87 as it is on 100 octane, but it will be knocking like a MF.

Now go put 100 octane back in and the only difference is no knock. Now tell me octane adds horsepower.

I agree, an endless arguement. Both sides have there points, and at the end of the day who cares lol