Thread: I lost to a civic

timing and boost go hand in hand, but some people like the feeling of different setups. i am a fan of high boost and i always will be. timing is the cheap and easy way to make more power. that being said, i think you should drop to the 3.5 and tune the crap out of your car and im sure youll fall in love all over again. until the next time you think you want to drop a pulley and you have that **** eating grin on your face again. i wouldnt run much more than 18* of timing WOT for a car on the street because with that much timing youll be very lucky to survive a decent knock event, but the same would go for boost as well. you have to tune conservatively for a car you want to run for a long time. just run it a little fat (rich) with a decent amount of timing and then put whatever pulley you can run on the car without it knocking.

that is my two cents.

a smaller pulley aint cheap and easy power????

a 3.5 is one size smaller than the 3.6. he already has the 3.6. the boost difference is barely going to be noticeable if any.

if anything, take a few different pullies with you when you go get it tuned. see what works the best...

hell, if you really wanted to feel what the 3.6 feels like run some race gas in it and see whats up. but then you gotta press the 3.8 back on if its a press on.....

Originally Posted by blowfishRus6

a smaller pulley aint cheap and easy power????

a 3.5 is one size smaller than the 3.6. he already has the 3.6. the boost difference is barely going to be noticeable if any.

if anything, take a few different pullies with you when you go get it tuned. see what works the best...

hell, if you really wanted to feel what the 3.6 feels like run some race gas in it and see whats up. but then you gotta press the 3.8 back on if its a press on.....

I was thinking of picking up a 3.4 and a 3.8 mp, driving there with the 3.8 on it, and bring the 3.4 and 3.6 with me, and see what they can tune out of the car and what works best

Originally Posted by TLSheff

HA not that light... not on the older models... the new ones are small and light yes prolly 2600 curb... but thats with nothing in it. My friends was a late 90s early 2000s SI with a full show sound system and trust it was heavier than 2600lbs

My 01 miata is ALOT smaller than a civic... and weight 2640 dry... the NEW new SIs are about that size.. the older ones are bigger, bulkier, and still cast iron blocks not all aluminum... pushing 2800-2900 and with a system and the driver... push 3200

NO the older models are lighter. Actually about every 5 years they get heavier and bigger. An 85 CRX weighs about 1900 lbs. I have a 1991 Honda CRX full interior with me in the car weighs 2100. My friends ek hatchback (96-00) weighs in at around 2300. An eg coupe is at around 2400lbs. They cars all vary in weight, but none older than 00 are guranteed to be around the 3's sorry, and all the blocks d, b, k, and h series are all aluminum blocks. I would assume and ek coupe (2000 Civic SI) with a k swap would be around 2500 lbs. By the way a miata maybe smaller than a civic, but a miata is a convertible and it reinforced with alot stuff to stiffen the chasis of the car. Either way this is getting away from the point of this race.

Originally Posted by TurboTrav

remember Bio had the L36 too
btw what gears you running?

can't wait to see the kill thread lol
do it from a roll beat him at his own game make him look even worse

no i didnt. i had an L67 block, but running a certain amount of boost shouldnt matter. so long as you dont let it detonate then youre money. thats why you either run a conservative tune and have your car last forever, or you run a borderline crack addicted tune and your car is faster than **** until one day with cold weather where you get a knock spike and blow a bank of pistons away. its all in the tune.

he said he was going to get a 3.4 also.....................

Originally Posted by QwikGT

you have headers, rockers and an intake a 3.4 pulley is all you need with Matts tune. jeffs car runs a 3.4, my old L36 ran a 3.4 and i went 13.0 and trapped 104mph all day at the track rental. you really think a 3.6 with 2 extra degrees of timing is going to matter? man up, buy a used 3.4 pulley from zzp and come down to the shop

Im going to order it at the end of the week when i get paid . Matt told me to come back when my trans got some miles on it, by the way Jose did a super clean awesome job installing it. Do you think matt can tune my car to run that? seems too fast for my mod list lol

why do you never mention the short stack you had or the meth........

the meth was installed 2010 but yet you talked about it early last year how the short stack sucked and the meth was so much better....


your story sure does contridict itself alot....


im just saying.



you aint gotta lie to kick it.

the meth was installed this past fall, but you said it was installed this year...................

contridicting yourself again...........



again, you aint gotta lie to kick it