GP or Grand Am

[kassel98gt]

I got a 98 gt with HAI and ubend delete and my buddy has a Grand AM GT(not sure which year),probly late 90's with ram air.

who do u guys think will win in a race?

[superv6]

Well the grand ams r quite a bit lighter. But it sounds like with ur mods u should pull on him pretty good

[kassel98gt]

ya how light they are compared to our boats is what concerns me

[blueguy]

3400 V6's are crap IMO...you'll beat him but not by much due to the weight differences...plus I think that they have shorter gears due to lack of power...IIRC...not sure...

[DWosik13]

3400 V6's are crap

good talk a head gasket change on the was one of the most horrific experiences ive ever had

[Quicklynx]

i always thought of just buying a GT since they're so damn cheap... i see them go for $2500 sometimes....

I love the look, it's a good looking car, but yes power is lacking and the modifications are lacking. I still wouldn't mind designing parts for one and selling them. Seems like a market that is still somewhat untapped...

[blueguy]

i always thought of just buying a GT since they're so damn cheap... i see them go for $2500 sometimes....

I love the look, it's a good looking car, but yes power is lacking and the modifications are lacking. I still wouldn't mind designing parts for one and selling them. Seems like a market that is still somewhat untapped...

Performance lacking my azz LOL If you got money take that 3400 to Milzy lol

[Quicklynx]

I was on milzys site looking at the 3400 stuff they had, it is quite impressive but the prices are outrageous. I guess if you're one of the few out there you can charge it.

[pontiacGTP123]

Well I think It would be hard to beat him in a N/A GP, because I raced a 2-door Grand Am GT ram air in my stock GTP at a 20 kick in first with performance shift on and left him but he hung with me to around 90 I was about 2-3 car lengths from him I also had a full car of friends and a bunch of crap in the trunk so I was weighed down. The ram air gt's are pretty fast. With your light mods you may pull him but not by much.

[blueguy]

I was on milzys site looking at the 3400 stuff they had, it is quite impressive but the prices are outrageous. I guess if you're one of the few out there you can charge it.

That is what I meant...top quality from what I hear but damn you pay out the ass for stuff...and it would be cheaper to sell it and buy a T/A LOL

[Quicklynx]

That's what I'm saying though... get a cheap 3400, start making parts for it, building heads and what not and you've got a solid following of GA owners which don't have much to follow. Notice ZZP left them all in the dust for the LSJ....

[blueguy]

That's what I'm saying though... get a cheap 3400, start making parts for it, building heads and what not and you've got a solid following of GA owners which don't have much to follow. Notice ZZP left them all in the dust for the LSJ....

ZZP in all honesty is a big let down. I was told when I first got my GTP that they were the best company hands down.

Now I tend to realize how much money I could have saved had I listened to some REAL GP enthusiasts...LOL

You gotta learn sometime haha

[Quicklynx]

Well right now a lot of stuff ZZP sells is cheaper than WBS and Intense...

[blueguy]

Well right now a lot of stuff ZZP sells is cheaper than WBS and Intense...

OH F**K WBS!!!

Damn I order one thing from them, takes it 3 weeks to get to my place...btw I live about 10 miles from KCMO in a known town LOL And I ordered...umm...I think a couple suspension parts...got 2 sets of valve springs and a couple other things I can't remember...I complained. Got my money back and got to keep all that crap...I was debating trying to order something cheap and see if I got the whipple kit LMAO!!!

[Quicklynx]

whipple would be awesome visually... but Gen V is better off money wise... what you only gain like 15% more HP from the whipple? Unless you realllllly need that overkill feel free to spend $3k more haha

[blueguy]

Well...LOL actually I was dead set on getting a Whipple so I can tell ya...unless you have a full size IC (S3), and built bottom end a Whipple is useless since it works best above 17-19psi...without cooling mods you can only run like a 4.5" pulley or so...which is putting the Whipple out of its efficiency range, causing it to give you...MAYBE 10-15% more HP...

But most built 3800's with a 3.5" Pulley on the Whipple have thrown down well over 500+ FWHP

[Quicklynx]

it's be sweet to have, but to me... you can get a turbo kit, have it prof tuned and get 200+ more whp for less....

[blueguy]

it's be sweet to have, but to me... you can get a turbo kit, have it prof tuned and get 200+ more whp for less....

Prolly true but nothing like having a WhippleGP

So just wondering...where the F**K did this thread go

[Toofastgs]

If it is a 5speed GAGT.
It will be a drivers race

[blueguy]

If it is a 5speed GAGT.
It will be a drivers race

5-spd? Not in the newer ones.