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  1. #1 I don't know if I'm asking this in the right place but... 
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    I've heard different takes from everybody I've talked to, so I was wondering if anybody can tell me if my 2001 Pontiac GTP Special Edition 4 Door Sedan, STOCK, would beat or at least run with my cousins, 94, 5.0 Mustang GT

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    depends on the stang, is it stock?? if so you should have no problem keeping up, maybe even winning with a good launch, if you raced from a dig
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    You're in the right place. It will be close depending on what all he has done to it and how he drives.
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    He's a good driver probly better than me but he's stock too
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    Those 5.0's are junk. It'll be a good race IMO but I think you'd take em. I've seen most stock/bolt-on (I/H/E) 5.0 Fox's not break out of 14's...its when they start doing builds is when you need to think about backing off

    I'd get rid of the U-Bend, and put a lower temp T-stat in it and it'll run a BUNCH better too
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    I have very little respect for the 5.0s unless they've got some serious cash invested.
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    a friend of mine had an 89 Fox GT, Nick that ran 13.8 on motor and a best of 13.4 on spray... not bad for a stock Hatch! and it was BONE STOCK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPRiley View Post
    a friend of mine had an 89 Fox GT, Nick that ran 13.8 on motor and a best of 13.4 on spray... not bad for a stock Hatch! and it was BONE STOCK!
    I ran a 13.4 in street EVERYTHING, including gas, with KR and I wasn't on the bottle...GTP FTW!!
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    Well no doubt, but that still wasnt bad for a Stock Fox. but yes I do love my GTP buddy!
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    4/10th with spray???? what was he running a 50 shot?

    I got a whole second with just tires and proper inflation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPRiley View Post
    a friend of mine had an 89 Fox GT, Nick that ran 13.8 on motor and a best of 13.4 on spray... not bad for a stock Hatch! and it was BONE STOCK!
    That sounds really fast for a stock 5.0. Plus the GT's were heavier weren't they? Those engines weren't putting out much over 200...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    Those 5.0's are junk. It'll be a good race IMO but I think you'd take em. I've seen most stock/bolt-on (I/H/E) 5.0 Fox's not break out of 14's...its when they start doing builds is when you need to think about backing off
    Wow. Stock they are in the 14's, although the 94+ are heavier than the Fox bodies. I am assuming by I/H/E you are referring to intake, heads, exhaust, although the usually "upgrading" of a 5.0 involves a cam...but if they go through all of that and are not below 14's, they fail as a driver. My 2-ton car with the stock 5.0L with a grand into H/C/I is in the 13's, and a Fox-body with the same engine and a solid foundation would be in the 12's.

    To be fair, the same amount I put into the 5.0 could be put into the GTP and come out just as fast or faster, but I feel calling the 5.0 junk is a little absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshMcMadMac View Post
    Wow. Stock they are in the 14's, although the 94+ are heavier than the Fox bodies. I am assuming by I/H/E you are referring to intake, heads, exhaust, although the usually "upgrading" of a 5.0 involves a cam...but if they go through all of that and are not below 14's, they fail as a driver. My 2-ton car with the stock 5.0L with a grand into H/C/I is in the 13's, and a Fox-body with the same engine and a solid foundation would be in the 12's.

    To be fair, the same amount I put into the 5.0 could be put into the GTP and come out just as fast or faster, but I feel calling the 5.0 junk is a little absurd.
    Well put.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshMcMadMac View Post
    Wow. Stock they are in the 14's, although the 94+ are heavier than the Fox bodies. I am assuming by I/H/E you are referring to intake, heads, exhaust, although the usually "upgrading" of a 5.0 involves a cam...but if they go through all of that and are not below 14's, they fail as a driver. My 2-ton car with the stock 5.0L with a grand into H/C/I is in the 13's, and a Fox-body with the same engine and a solid foundation would be in the 12's.

    To be fair, the same amount I put into the 5.0 could be put into the GTP and come out just as fast or faster, but I feel calling the 5.0 junk is a little absurd.
    By I/H/E I meant Intake, Header, and Exhaust. They are a good platform to mod, hell if I had the money I'd buy one and build it. I'm just commenting on if you don't really break into the motor (such as heads/cam/bottom end) they aren't that great and everyone that I have seen around here (KC) could not break out of 14's and the fastest stock cam/head/bottom end 5.0 Fox I saw threw down low 13's on the bottle and DR's. Hope I didn't hit a soft spot with you just saying my opinion about them...
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