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    I am interested in upgrading my tire to a wider size and was wondering if 245 was the widest you can run on either a 16", 17" or 18"? im having traction issues and want something that will grip a lot better then the stock 225/60 r16.
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    ill spill some knowledge on you, based on STOCK components.

    the stock 225/60/16 tires are already fairly wide for the stock 7" wide wheels. when you add a 245/50/16 tire on it (doable, many have done it including me) you end up with a lot of tire. this causes the contact patch to be minimized because of the curve the tire needs to take to fit on the skinny wheel. therefore with the stock wheel you should stick with the stock size, but look for a stickier tire.

    if you've got a wider wheel then by all means go with a wider tire. too wide and the tire never gets hot enough to develop the 'sticky' that it should have. too skinny and the tire gets too hot and also has ill effects. normally a 245ish wide tire is going to fit best on an 8" wide wheel.

    so when it comes down to it, what wheel are you running? that will determine your optimum tire size. from there you should find a tire that does what you want in that optimum size.
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    so is an 8" wide wheel the optimum width with traction being the goal. are there any stock wheels that are that wide with the same bolt pattern as my 99 gtp. im open to 17's but would prefer to stay with the 16" wheel.
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    For a 245, 7.5 to 8.5 would be the optimum rim width size. You can put a 245-50 16 on a rim from 7.0 to 9.0 width, as Bio stated the skinnier the rim the more curve the tread has, of course if you go to wide you start to get a concave in the middle which isn't good. A good guide would be split the difference within in the reccommended rim width range that the tire calls out for. Therefore the 8.0 would be the best bet all the way around.
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    are there any vehicles that come stock with an 8" wide wheel that will work on our grand prix's?
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    yes they are. I guess my next question is with the larger wheels how concerned should I be with the additional weight? Ive been having a hard time finding the weights of most wheels out there. how much does the stock wheel weigh?
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    weight is always going to be a concern, with anything other than stock. stock wheels are about as light as you are gonna get.

    most of anything is going to weigh more.
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    Pre-gens had a 16x8 option (not so pretty, but very functional), Bullitt's 17x8s, Saleen's 17/18x8s, GXP's 18x8, research. There are alot of x8 wheels out there for our cars.

    Biggest thing to make sure of is the central bore has to be big enough. most imports won't work because they run a smaller center bore and the wheel won't fit. Ford is one of few that have a bigger hub bore than our cars do. I believe the 350z's will work as well, but I don't think they have a x8 option, unless you get the stanced wheels and I think the offset is too much for our cars on those. Just food for thought.

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    Most aftermarket wheels have a 73mm hub bore to accommodate lots of cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLSheff View Post
    Pre-gens had a 16x8 option (not so pretty, but very functional), Bullitt's 17x8s, Saleen's 17/18x8s, GXP's 18x8, research. There are alot of x8 wheels out there for our cars.

    Biggest thing to make sure of is the central bore has to be big enough. most imports won't work because they run a smaller center bore and the wheel won't fit. Ford is one of few that have a bigger hub bore than our cars do. I believe the 350z's will work as well, but I don't think they have a x8 option, unless you get the stanced wheels and I think the offset is too much for our cars on those. Just food for thought.
    Saleen wheels are dont come in 8" widths. Only 9"
    Both bullits and Saleen wheels are heavy. About 30lbs for a 18x9 Saleen.

    350z wheels wont work unless you open of the wheel bore or run some 10mm spacers.

    The best and lightest mustang wheel is the 17x8 5 spoke GT wheel that come on the 99-04 cars. Just hard to find.
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    thanks for the tip
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    pregens are 16x7 unless u find the mesh pregens that are 16x8. any stock 97-03 rim (except the three spoke/snowflake) is 16lbs, that includes torque stars and abs fat five spoke wheels.

    you could go find some enkei rpf1's, stupid light for the price and plenty sizes to choose from.
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    T stars are 17ish lbs.

    My 94-96 rims are 17.5 about.

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    ^^ therre was a thread somewhere where iirc ninny weighted out all stock wheels. thats what im going from bruh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odi View Post
    ^^ therre was a thread somewhere where iirc ninny weighted out all stock wheels. thats what im going from bruh.
    There like 16.xxlb but whatever. Its a pound..

    Unfortunately there's not very many light weight rims for our. Especially in 16"
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    I'm thinking about some rpf1s for my civic. I would go with factory fat five spokes or torque thrusts for the gp with a 225 tire as mentioned before.
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    [I'm thinking about some rpf1s for my civic. I would go with factory fat five spokes or torque thrusts for the gp with a 225 tire as mentioned before.]

    the goal here is to switch to a wider tire. to my knowledge the factory wheels arent wide enough to support a 245 which is what I want to change to.
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