I hate cops

[Sudden]

Yes, I do call them. I've had no good results though. If I REALLY needed them I would have been left to my own devices. If they would patrol instead of sitting outside of town with radar I might not have had to wait for them to remove a dead body from the sidewalk to get into the building where I work.

Yup, it's nearly impossible to retrieve unbiased news...everybody is stroking somebody.

Back to the topic of hating cops, does this mean you will not call them in the event when you genuinely need them Sudden?

[Sudden]

Bill, I never dick with cops. I'm glad you have thinking cops where you are. The ones around are mostly not that good. And I already said I don't get tickets.

[Sudden]

When someone tried to get into my house they took 20 minutes. My deer rifle was the only thing that made him change his mind. When seconds count the cops are only minutes away. This isn't a big thing with me. I seldom think about cops. I just wanted to rant and stir up some conversation.

During my time as a NY State Trooper, I can say that the folks who have a problem with cops got caught breaking the law. I wonder who you will call when someone has broken into your home or assaulted you? It's a rhetorical question...no need to answer.

[Sudden]

Actually the more I think about it I don't really hate cops. I get pissed off when they mess up, aren't held responsible, and are arrogant. I just needed to rant.

[Scottydoggs]

I've been pulled over dozens and dozens of times. It's funny how mutual respect, honestly and knowing I was breaking the law usually got me let go w/o a ticket. I'm thankful for the 99% of law enforcement that does their underpaid, unappreciated job day in and out. The bad 1% exists because people are people.

A title/thread like this say to me you broke the law and got penalized for it. If that's the case..you probably deserved what you got.

Hell.. I have been pulled over so many times, I know that officers like my SOP for being pulled over

1. Pull over, don't dick around.. you know you are caught. Aim for a place that is safe for the officer when they are out of the car.
2. Put the car in park and take foot off brake. This signals you aren't aiming to run or cause a problem.
3. If night, flip on the interior lights.
4. Put the insides of your wrists on the top of the steering wheel in plain sight.
5. Sit still and give the officer a chance to run the plate and come to the window. Don't move beyond looking in the mirror/watching him approach. You don't need your registration or insurance etc. They haven't asked you for it. Moving around doesn't save time, it puts the cop on alert because you coudl be a dangerous person, they don't know you.
6. Once at the window, put it down if it was up.
7. "Good morning/day/evening, officer"
8. Tell the truth, Cops hear every excuse in the book. I told probably 50 cops I was doing 50+ in a 30-35 zone. When they ask why "trying to make time....get home.. get sleep.. " whatever the actual reason was.
9. Once they've run your info and are letting you go. A have a good day/night, thank you etc are good. Afterall, I was breaking the law and they aren't penalizing me for paying their salary to enforce said laws.
10. As soon as the cop flips around and heads the other way.. get right back up to speed.

i agree with everything except for the under paid part, cops around here make 50 grand a year to start, thats over paid in my book, and it only goes up from there, in 20 years they get more then they started out making in a pension, hows that over paid? they make to damn much for sitting in a car all day writing tickets.

and 90% of cops that i know personally are dick bags who got bullied in HS, now they take it out on the public, so yes most are just pu$sys who got beat up as a kid. now they have a badge and a gun.

[Sudden]

Scotty, I know some like that, bullied. The bullies in my class went on to become police.

[BillBoost37]

They probably hated Jersey Shore...lol

[99prixgt]

there are awesome, crooked, quota cops

I just recently did work at a cops house, the dude was awesome, he gave me a "get out of jail free card" and a fat tip for my awesome generator install . He worked in an area which was filled with real crime, risking his life everyday in the ghetto, he had my respect, he lays his life down everyday to protect the public.

[matt5112]

i agree with everything except for the under paid part, cops around here make 50 grand a year to start, thats over paid in my book, and it only goes up from there, in 20 years they get more then they started out making in a pension, hows that over paid? they make to damn much for sitting in a car all day writing tickets.

and 90% of cops that i know personally are dick bags who got bullied in HS, now they take it out on the public, so yes most are just pu$sys who got beat up as a kid. now they have a badge and a gun.

The $100,000 club: Who’s really making big money these days - Business - Macleans.ca

Good times.

As a result, 40 per cent of the force took home more than $100,000 last year. Crime may not pay. But in Windsor, fighting it sure does.

Across the river, Detroit’s highest-paid police officer—aside from the chief—took home US$53,000 last year, and probably had a much tougher job. With a violent crime rate five times the national average, Detroit in 2012 retained—for a fourth year running—its dubious title as America’s most dangerous city. Detroit’s chief of police earned $97,697, or less than half the $205,000 pocketed by Windsor chief Albert Frederick (which was about the same as Raymond Kelly earned as the police commissioner of New York City, one of the largest and busiest police forces in the world).

[tms8582]

I've been pulled over dozens and dozens of times. It's funny how mutual respect, honestly and knowing I was breaking the law usually got me let go w/o a ticket. I'm thankful for the 99% of law enforcement that does their underpaid, unappreciated job day in and out. The bad 1% exists because people are people.

A title/thread like this say to me you broke the law and got penalized for it. If that's the case..you probably deserved what you got.

Hell.. I have been pulled over so many times, I know that officers like my SOP for being pulled over

1. Pull over, don't dick around.. you know you are caught. Aim for a place that is safe for the officer when they are out of the car.
2. Put the car in park and take foot off brake. This signals you aren't aiming to run or cause a problem.
3. If night, flip on the interior lights.
4. Put the insides of your wrists on the top of the steering wheel in plain sight.
5. Sit still and give the officer a chance to run the plate and come to the window. Don't move beyond looking in the mirror/watching him approach. You don't need your registration or insurance etc. They haven't asked you for it. Moving around doesn't save time, it puts the cop on alert because you coudl be a dangerous person, they don't know you.
6. Once at the window, put it down if it was up.
7. "Good morning/day/evening, officer"
8. Tell the truth, Cops hear every excuse in the book. I told probably 50 cops I was doing 50+ in a 30-35 zone. When they ask why "trying to make time....get home.. get sleep.. " whatever the actual reason was.
9. Once they've run your info and are letting you go. A have a good day/night, thank you etc are good. Afterall, I was breaking the law and they aren't penalizing me for paying their salary to enforce said laws.
10. As soon as the cop flips around and heads the other way.. get right back up to speed.

You must have some nice police in CT Bill. I pretty much agree with everything you said but here in Michigan if you get pulled over its a 99% chance your getting a ticket. I just moved and didn't see a no turn on red in an unfamiliar area. My fault yes..... I told the cop I just moved and I didn't see the sign. I was very polite and have a pretty clean driving record. I got a ticket and paid it then received a notice in the mail that I could reduce it to a no-points impeding traffic by going to a traffic school. Many of my friends tell me the same thing about getting bs tickets and then paying more for no point impeding traffic instead. Impeding traffic tickets are about $30.00 more than most violations here in MI and I see it as a money grab. I even read something in the paper about the cities running low on revenue and turning to traffic tickets to supplement lost revenue. personally I see people driving like total A-holes weaving in and out of traffic speeding big time and cutting you off just to stop hard at a red light etc. I feel like these reckless drivers should get the tickets. The average Joe going 5 to 10 over on main streets and highways, rolling through a stop with no cars in sight etc. should be left alone! It's all about dollars and cents today and I'm tired of the government digging into our pockets when its already hard for most people to make ends meet. I think the police should concentrate on criminals and dangerous drivers and let the petty harmless things go with a warning.

[Scottydoggs]

Conn cops seem to be dicks to me. they keep the cars and trucks they seize from drug busts, then use them as under cover cars to do radar on the side of the highway, im talking some real pos cars and trucks too, so they look broke down as you speed past them. its a good trick.


side note, i've traveled a lot in Conn, never been stopped. but i dont speed in that state either, for the above noted reasons.


Nj seems to be one of the few states that hand out PBA cards, the good old free pass.


Hey 99prixgt, remember the cops name, when you hand the card over, the cop will ask you whos card it is, if you dont know his name fast, the card gets taken, and you get a ticket sometimes. they dont like giving free breaks to people who got the card just because you did some work for the guy, they want you to be family, or a good friend of the cop who gave it to you. so dont say, i did some work for this guy and he threw me a pba card lol

southern part of the state is a different union, they dont do pba cards, and look confused when you hand it over, i used it once in south NJ and the cop called his capt to see wtf the card was for, i got lucky, he honored it. and he gave me back the card, most of the time they keep the card.


and if you get popped for something dumb, i mean real dumb, dont hand the card over, dwi, road racing, ect. the cop who nailed you wont care, they they will call the issuing cop and give him hell. and you'll get the tickets anyway.

[stealthee]

You must have some nice police in CT Bill. I pretty much agree with everything you said but here in Michigan if you get pulled over its a 99% chance your getting a ticket. I just moved and didn't see a no turn on red in an unfamiliar area. My fault yes..... I told the cop I just moved and I didn't see the sign. I was very polite and have a pretty clean driving record. I got a ticket and paid it then received a notice in the mail that I could reduce it to a no-points impeding traffic by going to a traffic school. Many of my friends tell me the same thing about getting bs tickets and then paying more for no point impeding traffic instead. Impeding traffic tickets are about $30.00 more than most violations here in MI and I see it as a money grab. I even read something in the paper about the cities running low on revenue and turning to traffic tickets to supplement lost revenue. personally I see people driving like total A-holes weaving in and out of traffic speeding big time and cutting you off just to stop hard at a red light etc. I feel like these reckless drivers should get the tickets. The average Joe going 5 to 10 over on main streets and highways, rolling through a stop with no cars in sight etc. should be left alone! It's all about dollars and cents today and I'm tired of the government digging into our pockets when its already hard for most people to make ends meet. I think the police should concentrate on criminals and dangerous drivers and let the petty harmless things go with a warning.

Traffic laws are in place for a reason. You should NEVER roll a stop sign. If you get pulled over for rolling a stop sign, then someone saw you. Most cops will let 5 over go, but if you get pulled over for 10 over, grin and bear it. You broke the law.

As far as the money grab goes, I agree. Traffic tickets are no longer about safety, they are all about the money. Stop light cameras are proof positive of that. The things are a violation of the constitution and have proven to INCREASE accidents, but they are still going up all the time.

[99prixgt]

Conn cops seem to be dicks to me. they keep the cars and trucks they seize from drug busts, then use them as under cover cars to do radar on the side of the highway, im talking some real pos cars and trucks too, so they look broke down as you speed past them. its a good trick.


side note, i've traveled a lot in Conn, never been stopped. but i dont speed in that state either, for the above noted reasons.


Nj seems to be one of the few states that hand out PBA cards, the good old free pass.


Hey 99prixgt, remember the cops name, when you hand the card over, the cop will ask you whos card it is, if you dont know his name fast, the card gets taken, and you get a ticket sometimes. they dont like giving free breaks to people who got the card just because you did some work for the guy, they want you to be family, or a good friend of the cop who gave it to you. so dont say, i did some work for this guy and he threw me a pba card lol

southern part of the state is a different union, they dont do pba cards, and look confused when you hand it over, i used it once in south NJ and the cop called his capt to see wtf the card was for, i got lucky, he honored it. and he gave me back the card, most of the time they keep the card.


and if you get popped for something dumb, i mean real dumb, dont hand the card over, dwi, road racing, ect. the cop who nailed you wont care, they they will call the issuing cop and give him hell. and you'll get the tickets anyway.

yeah I know his name, to be honest I probably wont ever have to use it except to try and get out of an inspection ticket, I don't drive crazy because I can't risk my job.

my post was more for just showing that cops aren't always the bad guys

[Scottydoggs]

your right, there are cops who are real people and act like a person. ive been ticketed by some nice guys lol

those cards are great though. dont toss it after the years up, they still work after the years up im told.

yeah NJ inspection ticket is what 250, 300 now? they got some balls i tell you. i remember when it was a 20 dollar ticket, and most of the time, they would just check your paper work and tell you to get it done asap.

PBA cards are good for red lights, speeding, driving a roll of truck on a roads posted for no vehicle's over 10,000 pounds lol that was south jersey.

[Tony Mendez]

Until you actually walk in the shoes of a police officer you have absolutely no idea what the job is or if it is a over-paid occupation. Try rolling up an a accident scene were an entire family is killed. Imagine responding to a call where a 7 year old girl is missing half her face because her drunk ass step dad had an episode of domestic violence. Try to imagine performing CPR on a person you have just shot...a person who fired 3 shots at you with the intent to send you to your maker. Imagine being investigated for defending yourself against a violent offender. Imagine every traffic stop that you make may turn into a fight for your life. If you have a hard time grasping any of these situations, then you have no idea what a cops job is.

[REDCRAPGP]

I don't hate cops. I respect the ones that do their job properly and don't abuse the power. Every time I've been pulled over I know damn well that I broke the law so there's no reason for me to be a complete dick. I'm honest and that has gotten me out of a few tickets then again I've still got tickets but I don't complain I just man up and pay them.

[REDCRAPGP]

Those that tend to hate cops generally are the ones that continue to do illegal **** and/or their buddies tend to be the ones that hate them for whatever reason and that reflects on them. They're just doing their job don't give them a reason to show up and your golden simple as that.

[Sudden]

I've never thought they were overpaid. They just don't have to act like pricks at times. Their job sucks in many ways. That doesn't mean they can be dicks at times. I always treat them with respect and expect them to do the same to me. They don't always think they need to. I've met some nice cops. At times I've been treated good by cops, and at the times when I thought they wouldn't.

[Scottydoggs]

Until you actually walk in the shoes of a police officer you have absolutely no idea what the job is or if it is a over-paid occupation. Try rolling up an a accident scene were an entire family is killed. Imagine responding to a call where a 7 year old girl is missing half her face because her drunk ass step dad had an episode of domestic violence. Try to imagine performing CPR on a person you have just shot...a person who fired 3 shots at you with the intent to send you to your maker. Imagine being investigated for defending yourself against a violent offender. Imagine every traffic stop that you make may turn into a fight for your life. If you have a hard time grasping any of these situations, then you have no idea what a cops job is.

i never said the job was easy, but around her they sit and write tickets, if they made say 30,000 a year, and didnt get a such a high paying a pension, maybe the towns across america could afford schools supply's. and to drive to a crash and see dead people is not worth 50 to 100,000 grand, firemen see dead people for free all the time. thats not worth all that money, if they are scared to meet face to face with a armed robber, maybe they took the wrong job, cause your signed on to protect and serve, not get rich off my tax dollars. so maybe they are working the wrong job.

heres one for you, a NYC cop, makes 32,000 to start, they have a tougher job then the local hackensack PD here where they are way over paid.

i tell you this much, id rather see firemen get paid that much, and the cops be volunteers. at least firemen do what they do with being assholes about, and around here, most dont get paid for it.

ive yet to see a fireman act like a asshole to the public for any reason, un like most cops around here with their fvcking attitudes. in my town here, the cops are all assholes, its just the facts. ive yet to met a local cop here who remotely seems to be cool. they all have this huge chip on their shoulders like they own us all and this town or some crap.

google Hackensack police the whole police force was just taken a apart, and rebuilt, due to the capt being corrupt. and doing all sorts of messed up crap, sad part the only thing that stuck was the falsifying a police report when his girlfriend had a crash while drunk, yes, he made it go away for her, and then got caught for it. hes fired now, and a new jerk will F it all up in good time too.

[stealthee]

I've dealt with asshole firemen.

I was coming home from Pittsburgh late one night and was coming into a little town I live near when I saw flashing lights at the bottom of the hill. I stopped, not sure I could get through, and a fireman waved his light wand for me to come down the road.

I slowed to under 10 mph (speedo wasn't even moving) and the first fireman yelled at me to slow down. I let off the throttle and was coasting in 1st gear going even slower when the fireman at the other end started cussing me out telling me "You were told to slow the f*ck down."

I literally came to a stop in the middle of the road and I went off on him. I had already had a run in with an asshole in Pittsburgh earlier and I wasn't in the mood for his sh!t.

After I berated the fireman for about 15 seconds the officer on the scene of the accident told the fireman to go away and just told me politely to be on my way. If I had been going too fast through an accident clean up don't you think the officer would have said something to me?