Why did I come to GPF? This is why...

[Govna47]

A couple of you have asked why I came to Grand Prix Forums over any of the forums devoted to cars of my style, like Firebird Nation and such. Single-handedly the main reason I came here is because of acceptance, not the fact that we share the 3800 engine, not that a certain jerZcavy4120 was talking about my car and some of you wanted to see it, but merely acceptance. Everyone here is always willing to help or offer an opinion, no matter how stupid a question or request is/was. In my book that gives the GPF a big thumbs up (). Here is an example of how every Firebird/Camaro forum treated me whenever I posed a question about making my car faster, or recommended mods for a V6 base model. Now I already knew the answer to this. This is a proving point to people who haven't believed me in the past:

Also added in my own commentary...

Will a 2000 Firebird WS6 rear end bolt right onto a 2001 Firebird V6?

A fairly simple question in my book, asked on Yahoo! Answers to see if I would get different results than on Firebird forums
It's time for me to continue waking up my 2001 V6 Firebird. Got a line out on a built rear end out of a WS6 Firebird. Will this rear bolt right up to my V6 with no problems? Everything I know is telling me it should, but I would just like confirmation. Thanks in advance
Figured it was a simple enough question. Maybe get a little insight out of it as well...


ANSWER:
It would fit (Cool, thanks for the answer, and quickly too!), but would be pointless (Didn't really ask for your opinion, but okay). If you want a fast firebird, forget about modifying a V6 base model. You will sepnd a ton of money for marginal results.

Do this instead. Sell this V6 base model Firebird (Yes, sell my 50k mile baby, what an idea!). Add all the money that you would have spent souping it up. Put this money towards a V8 model Trans AM. The V8 powered Formula or Trans AM will be faster than your 6 banger ("6 banger"...this started to piss me off, threw me in a category alongside 4 cylinder cars (ie 4 bangers) and was there I realized exactly where this guy's mentaility on V6s was) base model could ever hope to be. The V8 model Formula or Trans AM is also a much better platform to modify. and we're right back to every forum...

There is a lot more to the Formula and Trans AM than just the more powerful V8 engine. The Formula and Trans AM also has superior suspension, superior brakes, superior tires, superior differential. The Formula or Trans AM will out accelerate, out brake, out corner and will be an all around better car than the 6 banger base model, even with modifications. Thanks, captain. I know the V8s are better

Consider this. A V8 powered Formula costs only about $1400 more than your 6 banger base model. I bet you would spend a lot more than $1400 fo get a 6 banger base model to perform up to the level of a Formula. The V8 Formula has 105 more horsepower and 110 more ft lbs of torque than the 6 banger. OOOOHHHHH you read the manual on the LS1, congrats!

I know it kind of sounds like I'm nitpicking at this point, but this is exactly where every other forum has placed me. In the "Don't modify your V6, it's pointless, get an LS1 (or equivalent) instead" category. jerZcavy4120 convinced me to come on here with the promise of real answers, not the "buy a V8 instead" people. You all have never let me down and have even got me to laugh on numerous occasions with some of your ideas on my stupid questions. Especially jteske88 and Billboost37 [they keep me awake every Wednesday morning during the most boring lecture class I've ever had].

All in all GPF is one of the greatest communities I've been a part of (along with my ExplorerForum guys), never passing [too much] judgement and always willing to offer a hand. Thanks Gerard for getting me on here and thanks GPF for being there when I needed help!


And also thanks for reading all this ranting! Your reward, you ask? Howsabout a cookie?

There's enough for everyone!

[LS1GTP]

I've been on a cadillac forum before when I had my eldorado. They were ALL grumpy old people that told me I shouldn't have a cadillac because of my age (I was 18). What an awful forum.

I have to agree with you, this is a very helpful forum.

[Govna47]

It's like GPF is here to pick up the pieces that no one else wants

[Slick2500]

Idk if you have a build thread going or not but what are your plans with the bird? Turbo? M90?

I was thinking of getting a V6 Firebird but I would want to buy one thats already been built or at least is faster than the GTP.

[spazzz]

I love sprinkles on cookies, zbout time we get treats. Thank you, can I have 2. I circled my choices and I'll PM my address. Hopefully the snailman doesn't crush them. O- are they soft and chewy or more on the dunking side. I haven't had cookies and coffee in quite sometime. you made my day

[NegativeOne13]

I love sprinkles on cookies, zbout time we get treats. Thank you, can I have 2. I circled my choices and I'll PM my address. Hopefully the snailman doesn't crush them. O- are they soft and chewy or more on the dunking side. I haven't had cookies and coffee in quite sometime. you made my day

**** off... I wanted those.

Gov, there are your typical asshats here but it deals between blown and N/A. We all know how the V8 GPs are.... lulzrite!

[FoSHO99]

There were always people out there that liked to hear themselves talk, you could choose to avoid them, then some dumbass invented a keyboard and the internet.

[Kolton Lock]

I like the emo black and red cookie on the bottom lol

On my audi forums now I get treated like that

18 year old with an 06 A3 lol

[jerZcavy4120]

<3

[Slowpoke]

TL;DR

Are you buying a V8?

[jerZcavy4120]

boost is moar funn.

and we're more about being different and awesome.

we're 'those guys.'

[Govna47]

Idk if you have a build thread going or not but what are your plans with the bird? Turbo? M90?

I was thinking of getting a V6 Firebird but I would want to buy one thats already been built or at least is faster than the GTP.

was thinking more along the lines of a turbo. m90 needs heavy modification just to get it to fit in my car since my engine sits so far back

[Govna47]

so yeah, I'm going to dump my baby for a V8, just so I can be included in another forum. because that how life works

@spazzz should I deliver them instead of mailing? That way we can assure that they don't get smushed

[Explicit_Spade]

AWWW! Warm fuzzy feels!

[ericspecullaas]

I have had all the V8's from 350 to 455 yeah sure u get more power but you dont go as far. most V8's are hammered so its a losing proposition. I never understood trying to make a car go faster with a V8. I do have to agree with you on some points with your car. not everyone can buy a V8 or wants one. I personally like the late 30's cars. well over engineered cars even by todays standards.

[jteske88]

This place is truly great. All the people get along for the most part. And most of us will go out the way for forum members. I will admit though, us gxp guys have our own little cult lol

[Sandman]

You're wanting to do an M90 swap for your car? Are you on FTV6?

If not that's where the first M90 swap, and a few more have been done. Good guys and a lot of info on that site.

[LeadfootCJ7]

Yep, I am on some other forums and they can be brutal for no reason. I have to assume that their real life sucks and being an ethug makes them feel better about themselves. GPF is certainly a much better group of people. Even if something isn't their taste, they try to help. They may throw a jab in for fun, but its clear its just a joke.

There used to be a turbo 3800 Camaro running around Houston that my buddy did some tuning on. It put down over 500hp iirc. It hurt feelings at the races often. It was great to watch because people would realize it was V6 and not want to race him, give him crap, etc....then he would blow their doors off.

[Govna47]

You're wanting to do an M90 swap for your car? Are you on FTV6?

If not that's where the first M90 swap, and a few more have been done. Good guys and a lot of info on that site.

first thread i went to lol:
"can it be done yes
can it be done easy... no
i didnt modify the supercharger but i did modify the firewall so its one or the other"

I don't want to have to modify my charger or my firewall.

[ctracer]

turbo 3.8 bird...im a fan!