Gas Prices!!!

[MTXGTP]

you can fight about this all day long and not get anywhere just like the gov't.

[Coogles]

All I can say is...SOHC 5spd Neon here I come.

[webracin]

you can fight about this all day long and not get anywhere just like the gov't.

That is so true...

I agree that we are limiting the oil companies by not allowing them to drill, (never heard of them not able to build more refineries, but I wil go with that)

I just think if they (the oil companies) can forcast or predict where the price of oil is going in a natural disaster, they should be able to predict when it will drops as well. Under the way its ran right now, the price goes up when a Huricane gets past Cuba and is heading for the gulf, but when it misses the gulf, the price does not drop for a week or two due to "oil reserves were bought at the higher price"....

Were were those oil reserves a week or two before the huricane hit?

In my opinion they are both at fault....the government and oil companies

In our area alone, there was a big investigation by the news and this is what they found. One oil company was supplying oil to NW Arkansas and SW Missouri....once you take the state taxes out of the equasion, the gas in NW arkansas was 20 cents more a gallon...the news wanted to know why it was more expensive.....Since most of the wealth in Arkansas is in NW Arkansas (due to Wal-mart and all the vendors, as well as a majority of the national trucking companies, and Tyson foods) we can afford the higher gas prices, where there is not as much industry in SW Missouri so they get their gas cheaper. Thats just not right....Shortly after that story ran, the gas in NWA started slowly droping.....

One other thing I would like to know is why are some gas stations going away from 10 cents between grades to 15 and even 20 cents between grades? Is it to keep the cost down on regular fuel while making up the cost on the people that have to use Super?

webracin

[GS-SC]

One other thing I would like to know is why are some gas stations going away from 10 cents between grades to 15 and even 20 cents between grades? Is it to keep the cost down on regular fuel while making up the cost on the people that have to use Super?

webracin

that makes sense,

ive also seen in my hometown that mid-grade is only 1 cent more expensive but true premium is mucho $$$

[J_Ferguson]

Well IMO they know they got us by the short hairs....
and that we are not going to do anything shot of just this--------
about it...
If every one was to buddy up if need be we could do a pretty good dent in there cash flow...
But everyone needs to drive their own car to work ect..
even to that store that is only 400 feet away...

Think things are bad now wait till the summer time when they jump the price up again------> because there potato salad went bad...
and someone has to pay for it...

Rant

[bayareagtp]

i wish we didnt need gas but until that day i will continually allow the gas station to rape me everytime i need some .

[Smokedgtp]

$1.06 a litre here thats about $4.77 a gallon!!! OH that's 87 octane 92 is $1.18 a litre ($5.31 a gallon)

[David99GTP]

This really gets me going. So many people are tired of high gas prices yet is it an issue for any of the candidates? No all anyone talks about is Hilary is a woman and Obama is black. who cares what color they are or if they are a woman. Lets see what they are going to do to make my life and everyone elses better. Lets ask them about taxes, gas prices, Economy, wages, Losing jobs to other countries, etc. All the news wants to address is a woman VS a black man. In the meantime we dont know if a better candidate didnt get a shot because he or she wasnt news worthy. Hilary and Obama get all the air time. Not too long ago I googled the republican race to see how it was going and all that popped up was the Democratic race. Just recently they finally start discussing the republican race but its already been decided basically. Rediculous!

[2Fast4U]

^^^^ I so agree with you on that all I ever hear about is the democrats nothing about the others. I don't really care much for Obama (Osama,hehe) ever since he did not put his hand over his heart when the pledge of allegiance was being said, I'm sorry but I don't have any respect for anybody that doesn't show respect to this country. I don't care if a woman gets elected president but for goodness sakes NOT Billary Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!

[David99GTP]

^^^^ I so agree with you on that all I ever hear about is the democrats nothing about the others. I don't really care much for Obama (Osama,hehe) ever since he did not put his hand over his heart when the pledge of allegiance was being said, I'm sorry but I don't have any respect for anybody that doesn't show respect to this country. I don't care if a woman gets elected president but for goodness sakes NOT Billary Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!

I know, I cant believe people arent outraged he wouldnt put his hand over his heart. Many people died for that flag. He should respect what it stands for and those who fought for it.I have a lot of patriotism, I get goosebumps when I sing the anthem. Most of my family has served and fought for this country. I have zero respect for anyone who disrespects our flag.
Another issue, I am not a clinton fan but heck they raked him over the coals on the inhale thing, and here is Obama, ex cocaine user and its not even an issue.

[GTPluv]

They both suck. IMO

[Curtis]

I am going to vote for the Demcratic party whomever it is, we don't need another republican in office!

[archemedes]

I am going to vote for the Demcratic party whomever it is, we don't need another politician in office!

fixed it

[N3p]

Haven't been really paying attention to the thread, but I just got gas (only put $20 in to get me by till prices drop again) at fkkkkking $3.45/gal (93 octane)! Ridiculous...

[02BlueGT]

^^^^ third time ive seen this and I call bull, I just looked through to DOE.gov site, and BP gets oil from Saudi Arabia.... I don't have time to check all the other companies, but sometimes you need to check facts before you accept everything in a mass e-mail...

No offense to anyone

[archemedes]

here's an interesting site that may have some more info EIA - Petroleum Basic Data

[David99GTP]

^^^^ third time ive seen this and I call bull, I just looked through to DOE.gov site, and BP gets oil from Saudi Arabia.... I don't have time to check all the other companies, but sometimes you need to check facts before you accept everything in a mass e-mail...

No offense to anyone

I'm not offended, I received the email from a good friend. I dont use BP after the debt card scam anyway.
I'll paste all the listings directly from the website. Didnt realize one error was going to be offensive.
This way Only facts will be posted. Hope this time nobody's feathers are ruffled.
It says BP gets 17% from persian Gulf. Saudi Arabia is one of many countries in the persian gulf. BP may not get a single barrel from saudi. My post said saudi oil, not persian gulf oil. So where were my facts wrong?? Where did you get your facts? I am just curious since you questioned mine. Not picking a fight I'd like to know if BP gets it from saudi or not. Personally I dont want any oil from that whole region. So saudi or not BP is off my list of places to get gas. I do appreciate the accusation of fact checking because now I know they get 17% from the region which is still unacceptable to me.
Anyway the next post is not a "mass email" its right from the website to save everyone from looking it up. I also included the link to verify.

[David99GTP]

JANUARY - DECEMBER 2007
(Thousand Barrels)

Totals: 3,628,696 768,734 21%
Company Total PersianGulf % Persian Gulf

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

VALERO MARKETING & SUPPLY CO 469,629 153,519 32%
EXXONMOBIL OIL CORP 475,983 155,181 32%
CONOCOPHILLIPS CO 452,340 22,992 5%
CHEVRON USA INC 254,442 91,660 32%
SUNOCO INC 255,440 0 0%
MOTIVA ENTERPRISES LLC 209,652 160,876 74%
BP PRODUCTS N AMERICA INC 188,292 34,099 17%
CITGO PETROLEUM CORP 180,479 949 1%
MARATHON PETROLEUM CO LLC 174,343 64,134 35%
FLINT HILLS RESOURCES LP 139,910 6,516 7%
SHELL OIL CO DEER PARK 107,825 0 0%
HOUSTON REFINING LP 93,543 0 0%
TESORO PETROLEUM CORP 75,835 4,143 8%
PDV MIDWEST REFINING LLC 57,336 0 0%
TOTAL PETROCHEMICALS USA INC 50,611 18,591 33%
SHELL US TRADING CO 52,184 1,897 4%
CHALMETTE REFINING LLC 37,002 250 1%
MURPHY OIL USA INC 29,426 10,469 40%
CITGO ASPHALT REFINING CO 26,295 0 0%
TESORO HAWAII CORP 26,561 9,435 41%
PRSI TRADING LP 23,631 0 0%
GIANT YORKTOWN INC 8,607 0 0%
UNITED REFINING CO 20,990 0 0%
SHELL CHEMICAL LP 17,160 0 0%
PLAINS MARKETING LP 21,674 504 5%
VITOL SA INC 13,438 0 0%
CHS INC 16,174 0 0%
SINCLAIR OIL CORP 17,606 0 0%
FRONTIER OIL & REFINING CO 18,132 0 0%
SHELL OIL CO 14,112 0 0%
WRB REFINING LLC 15,985 15,985 100%
HUNT CRUDE OIL SUPPLY CO 10,636 5,418 53%
SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US PUGET SOUND 8,304 0 0%
SUNCOR ENERGY USAINC 8,879 0 0%
KOCH SUPPLY & TRADING CO 6,000 5,500 88%
ERGON OIL PURCHASING INC 6,266 0 0%
PARAMOUNT PETROLEUM CORP 7,447 0 0%
LION OIL CO 6,446 6,446 100%
TRIGEANT LTD 3,581 0 0%
MONTANA REFINING CO 3,436 0 0%
NCRA 2,629 0 0%
ARON J & CO 3,662 0 0%
CANNAT ENERGY INC 3,641 0 0%
TIDAL ENERGY MARKETING INC 4,214 0 0%
STATOIL MKTG & TRDG US INC 3,659 0 0%
EQIUSTAR CHEMICALS LP 1,018 0 0%
US OIL & REFINING 1,552 170 0%
FLYING J PETROLEUM INC 1,115 0 0%
PACIFIC MARKETING & TRANSP 328 0 0%
GARY-WILLIAMS ENERGY CORP 877 0 0%
MERCURIA ENERGY CANADA INC 138 0 0%
UBS AG LONDON BRANCH 231 0 0%

OK I hope that is enough fact checking. It is cut and pasted right from the DOE website.
Crude Oil Imports From Persian Gulf 2007

[02BlueGT]

What I read specifically said Saudi, it was an excel format, so I will see if I can find it and copy it

[02BlueGT]

Company Level Imports

Read the company level imports excel, BP gets oil from both the Saudis and Venezuela..... But in their defence, about 1/3 their oil does seem to come from Canada