If you cant answer my question, then dont respond with a stupid comment.

[matt5112]

i call it club gp syndrome.

and its not like the other mods spent even half as much time on here as nick does.

[Pontiacman76]

If it's a hassle for you to be a moderator, then give up the job and give it to someone who wants it. I would think there'd be more important issues to attend to rather than entering a newbies thread, strutting your **** and acting like an ass.

Really good first impressions for the board...

Its cool Blown, up until this post I never ran into a issue about getting help on any question I had about this car. Before this Gp I always had big body cars (Caprices, Grand Marquis and Crown Vics). I was in a forum for all of them. I finally get this car at a price that I couldnt ignore. So like my other cars I looked into a forum, who wouldnt? Everybody seemed cool that I talked to thus far, but this doesn't really change how I feel about the forum in anyway. I guess I could have looked up some info on the Internet but I figured that since I'm in a forum I would just ask. I'm all man about mine and I should have just searched for it first before asking. I just didnt see the reason to call somebody dumb about a question (I thought was important) considering a mechanic told me that I could blow the motor. I never had a car that I could actually build and I'm quite excited about it honestly. But I'm just gonna let it go....Everybody is different and its not worth me being heated about it.

[16MustangVet]

More whining on GPF no way!! My god people its the damn internet. You people make it sound like if someone says something you dont like in person your gonna take a swing at them! Get a grip dont cry because someone pissed in your cereal.

[matt5112]

the way the thread came across was as such "i'm going to top swap but a mechanic said my pistons can't handle it, is this true?"

Most assume that you've done the research if you're going to top swap, but the way the thread read suggested otherwise.

The shock of someone planning to mod their car but not knowing if their car can handle it resulted in that thread.

[Pontiacman76]

the way the thread came across was as such "i'm going to top swap but a mechanic said my pistons can't handle it, is this true?"

Most assume that you've done the research if you're going to top swap, but the way the thread read suggested otherwise.

The shock of someone planning to mod their car but not knowing if their car can handle it resulted in that thread.

Ok so, I didnt go into detail, all I know is I have most of the parts pretty much giving to me and this mechanic comes up with this story about the pistons and rods not being able to take the added pressure from the SC...now in the past i've seen so many members in the forum that have done this swap that I figured I would just ask and go from there, if this is true I would just go in a different direction you know, like sell the swap parts and maybe try to get a motor out of a GTP which is beginning to look like an option.

[Pontiacman76]

More whining on GPF no way!! My god people its the damn internet. You people make it sound like if someone says something you dont like in person your gonna take a swing at them! Get a grip dont cry because someone pissed in your cereal.

Honestly Vet, if I did ask a question and somebody said something like that I just might lol I do have a temper at times!!! But anyway its all good and your right it is the Internet.

[Bio248]

i enjoy moderating and i enjoy the people here, so me taking leave of this probably isnt going to happen anytime soon. either way if youre looking for an appology: im sorry. given that i was actually a nice person i would have referenced a few links for you, then closed the thread, but it didnt play out that way. that was my poor decision for doing that, but the problem is that i see this every day. some days i dont mind, some days it gets to me. your thread just happened to get to me at that point in time.

however, i believe that once you have taken this endeavor under your belt that you should have done more research before you even asked the question. you need to run more mods in comparison to an L67 block because of the compression ratio in order to keep detonation down. there are good and bad ways around this. however, do it first the right time and just cam your car. youll thank us later.

until you decide what your true path is, i think you need to hit the books.

[matt5112]

Ok so, I didnt go into detail, all I know is I have most of the parts pretty much giving to me and this mechanic comes up with this story about the pistons and rods not being able to take the added pressure from the SC...now in the past i've seen so many members in the forum that have done this swap that I figured I would just ask and go from there, if this is true I would just go in a different direction you know, like sell the swap parts and maybe try to get a motor out of a GTP which is beginning to look like an option.

Thats basically what you had to explain.

Still doesnt justify bio's close.

But still doesnt justify you not taking initiative.

But know this..... stock blocks can handle the world as long as the cylinder temps are down and its not knocking.

[16MustangVet]

i've seen so many members in the forum that have done this swap that I figured I would just ask and go from there, if this is true I would just go in a different direction you know, like sell the swap parts and maybe try to get a motor out of a GTP which is beginning to look like an option.

If youve seen so many others do this then why wouldnt it work? Because some "mechanic" said it wouldnt and apparently doesnt know much about the 3800. The interchangeability of these engines is huge not to mention a way way bigger aftermarket than the average grandprix/impala/monte carlo/regal ect. owner has any clue about should be a good suggestion that a "top swap" can and WILL work throw that mechanics comment out the window in short he's very WRONG.

[Lawngoose]

My mechanic said my car would get me laid. He didnt explain that it only attracts guys.

[Pontiacman76]

i enjoy moderating and i enjoy the people here, so me taking leave of this probably isnt going to happen anytime soon. either way if youre looking for an appology: im sorry. given that i was actually a nice person i would have referenced a few links for you, then closed the thread, but it didnt play out that way. that was my poor decision for doing that, but the problem is that i see this every day. some days i dont mind, some days it gets to me. your thread just happened to get to me at that point in time.

however, i believe that once you have taken this endeavor under your belt that you should have done more research before you even asked the question. you need to run more mods in comparison to an L67 block because of the compression ratio in order to keep detonation down. there are good and bad ways around this. however, do it first the right time and just cam your car. youll thank us later.

until you decide what your true path is, i think you need to hit the books.

I respect you Bio and except your apology I'm sorry too for making a big deal of it, and not looking into it before I asked the forum, everybody has bad day and I didn't realize How many people might have the same question that I posted and that would get annoying....Like I said this is all new to me and I just wanna make sure I get it right you know. A friend of mine said I should just cam it but that SC option looks so awesome man. But its all good man, Are we cool?

[Pontiacman76]

If youve seen so many others do this then why wouldnt it work? Because some "mechanic" said it wouldnt and apparently doesnt know much about the 3800. The interchangeability of these engines is huge not to mention a way way bigger aftermarket than the average grandprix/impala/monte carlo/regal ect. owner has any clue about should be a good suggestion that a "top swap" can and WILL work throw that mechanics comment out the window in short he's very WRONG.

Thanks man!!!

[16MustangVet]

If I got this right the car is NA now and a cam would be a waste! Top swap parts are very easy to find and cheap the gains from the top swap would be way better than a cammed NA car. Now a cammed Supercharged car thats an entirely different conversation!

[Bio248]

i meant cam it when youre doing the top swap, therefore you can easily run the stock pulley or a little smaller without worrying about blowing the bottom end to dust.

[matt5112]

without headers that is.

and we all know headers are whores.

[TLSheff]

I dont really care one way or the other, but you dont have call anybody dumb, all that was needed to be said was yes or no and theres more info on the forum. That doesn't seem to be to hard does it? Being the main reason people join a forum is to get info and to meet people who have the same interest. Better yet the person was a moderator, idk just sayin.

I know that alot of time has past but i just got thru reading this whole post, work got in the way lol.... Bio, im sorry for saying this and I feel like an ass but that Bold/Underlined sentence had your name written all over it

Now to the OP... Ive been on this forum for a while now, watching, learning, all that. Take all of this with a grain of salt, its brought up alot and I've gotten annoyed reading it, so i can imagine the mods having to answer and move and all that to every post day after day. Were usually laid back, chit chat, shoot the bull, and have fun so read a lil, start with the "safely modding your 3800 thread" and from there start asking questions.
Too many people have done top swaps for it to be a big danger, you just have to understand that since the engine is already at a high compression you cant do the same mods that a gtp can because the compression will be too much and unless you LIKE replacing head gaskets weekly, you'll be without a car more than you'll be driving it. Take the necessary precautions and you'll be very happy with a top swap.

Good Luck
- TL

[Bio248]

thanks for the heads up, but i caught on already.

[blueguy]

Big Block likes to state his opinions when he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Sure is ok to run your mouth about things you don't know...just like when you were accusing me of backing up TDC awhile back...don't you have some trunk mats to make? I'd just like to say that after Nick started moderating we've had a good clean up and on here and plan on keeping it that way...don't screw up a nice forum that we all care to contribute to.

[01gpgt01]

Yeah I know, Its stupid and disrespectful to call somebody dumb, who actually came into a forum that deals with the car in question to see if what an actually mechanic said could happen? Like I said the person in question dont know nothing about me to be calling me dumb.

Heres a DUMB idea. Search the forum before posting a question thats obviously been answered 500 times before. Hell the thread directly below yours had the answer in it

[Bio248]

alright, its gone far enough.