I will drive a Honda and whoop up on some 3800 any day!!
if I had Travis Honda...
newbie...with a ls1....but not in your typical car - LS1TECH
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04-08-2009
I will drive a Honda and whoop up on some 3800 any day!!
if I had Travis Honda...
newbie...with a ls1....but not in your typical car - LS1TECH
04-09-2009
Why the harshness towards a fellow GP owner? I mean really? You trap over 100mph...what do you want? A prize. Get real. So do about million other racers out there.Originally Posted by QwikGT
A Honda is a Honda, no matter how much money you put into it. I've heard story after story of modded cars gettin' powned by Honda's and you know what? No ones gives a rats ass about a built LS VTEC or a Blown K20A...you think RPM's and VTEC are gonna beat a 3800? Maybe...so what? What does it prove. Nothing. Wouldn't hurt my ego any as probably anyone elses. When you get your head on straight come back and speak sense.
You still are going to be driving a gay car.
Tuning a Honda is like coming out of the closet...at first everyone is shocked but in the end you're still GAY!
This thread = FAIL
End of story.
04-09-2009
Honda cars are ****, just like honda bikes are. Enough said? Being a japanese car owner myself, I can honestly say that the majority of honda owners have no idea what they're doing, not to mention they take a cheap car, almost always second/third owners, usualy their first car, throw a fart can on it, and think they're the ****. I put a lot of work into my 98 altima, being the only owner. Gutted the inside, gutted the engine bay, swapped the engine out, put a offroading header (stillen 4into1 header) ripped the cat off, threw on a nice american muffler for that extra umf for the offroad track, and turbo charged it. Being a part of a nissan club, we did not respect honda owners, and never would. Being that I've strayed away from japanese cars all together, i'm still not impressed.
04-09-2009
Well lets see here boys, its just going to get worse from here so suck it up. There is harshness in the real world and if that bothers you then good luck because it will just get worse.
A GP is still just a GP no matter how much money you put into it. PS such a fail of an argument this can be said for anything.
Umm yes people do, it is a step further than most people (YOU)
are willing to take I respect someone who took the time to properly make a car that no one else has, without that motivation there would be no "good" cars.
Uhm sure seems like it would hurt your ego if you lost to a honda, I am sure as hell that you wouldn't come on here and say you lost or you would say "yeah but he was swapped/had Nitrous/cheated".
04-09-2009
Thanks. Didn't realize how s**tty this place was until you said something.
You failed EPICALLY for using the Grand Prix in a Honda argument. If you drive one and have the passion for them as everyone here you wouldn't be saying crap like that. I put blood and sweat, time & money...that I don't really have into making my car what it is today and I enjoy every little part about it. Apparently you don't understand that yet do you?
Why are you calling me out on this? What is the deal. Really? If you've got something to really tell me send me a PM. Were talking about Honda's and ignorant Ricers. I no where said I didn't respect the person for taking the time for building a strong 4 cylinder powered car. I'm dogging on people HERE...for saying that a engine swapped EG/EK Hatch and VTEC and all this crap is gonna WALK all over a 3800 powered vehicle if you throw the same amount of money at them. Who knows. They might. Might not...I just think spending that kind of money on a car that has nothing going for it is pointless. Everyone has their own thing...fine. Don't go bashing me when everyone else states their opinions about this and you jump on me about it. But that is just what I think after all and since I don't take that step as you say to show people respect then maybe I should go to Canada and learn something.
You know me that well do you? I honestly have never lost to a Honda. I can tell you if you read my cardomain page that I have lost to a Cobalt and a few other cars you wouldn't think that would beat a GTP with as many mods as I have. I know of Honda's that would beat the living piss out of me but I am smart enough to stay away from them. Many kids around here have them...built B18's, H22's, T3/T4 Hybrid Turbo builds...I know what to pick on and what not to. I'm sure someday I'll come across a Honda I think I can beat and get waxed but so far I haven't. But as the saying goes there is always something faster. AND...there is always someone who is going to run their mouth more. Apparently most of those people are young punks from Canada huh?
So I am gonna say what you did earlier. Why say a GP is a GP no matter how much money you put into it? It is better...bar none no matter how you slice it.
04-09-2009
Welcome to my world and a few members who left. The reality is it's going to get worse.
Yeah I don't understand what it is like to put my own money and everything else I have into a car... you don't even know me. I have built plenty of cars with my dad and family he does that for a living, the reality is when it bites the dust and it WILL then you can dog on me all you want. And this is the worst rebuttal go on a Honda forum and say that and you defeated your own argument later on, they have the passion for their cars as you do for your GP so you can't use that point.
What would be the point of a PM? Why are people afraid to argue something where everyone can see it? Do you argue with someone then say "oh hey I don't want "x" seeing this or hearing this come talk to me in a closet where no one can see this. And here we go again, you hate on the civette but then you go and do a 180* and say "everyone has their own thing" even though you said it was still just a honda and doing it was gay. Get off it dude, people will do what they want regardless of what you say RICE IS RICE and will always be that way there is no changing it and there is no going back to where Domestics ran the market. And now you are making remarks about my nationality? Wtf man and I am the low one... Yeah right.
You know me that well do you? I honestly have never lost to a Honda. I can tell you if you read my cardomain page that I have lost to a Cobalt and a few other cars you wouldn't think that would beat a GTP with as many mods as I have. I know of Honda's that would beat the living piss out of me but I am smart enough to stay away from them. Many kids around here have them...built B18's, H22's, T3/T4 Hybrid Turbo builds...I know what to pick on and what not to. I'm sure someday I'll come across a Honda I think I can beat and get waxed but so far I haven't. But as the saying goes there is always something faster. AND...there is always someone who is going to run their mouth more. Apparently most of those people are young punks from Canada huh?
So I am gonna say what you did earlier. Why say a GP is a GP no matter how much money you put into it? It is better...bar none no matter how you slice it.
Well no, I don't know you but I know people as a whole don't like to be seen as inferior and you sure as hell would get bashed for losing to a honda we both know it. Again you are poking fun at my Country and my Gov't? Don't make me go into the faults of the US because you will not win. I took your words and replaced it with GP get your panties out of your ass because you said the same about the honda, and by your standards it is a better car when your word is the word of the car community I will bow to it, until then you can't use that.
PS I slice it from fuel economy therefore you just lost. I slice it from reliability therefore you lost, I slice it from driveability therefore you lost...
PPS It's crap like this that adds to the "sh1ttyness" of GPF that you speak of, bashing a honda that hardcore... Shame dude I know many honda owners and most are nice guys, how about next time you see one and ask him why he does what he does you will be SHOCKED they don't do it for the speed most of the time. So much prejudice sheesh
04-09-2009
Dawson owns both, so believe it.
04-09-2009
Blue you need to stay on topic before someone gets hurt (you).
04-09-2009
Haha I was sticking to winning with brains but I doubt he will come back and make another rebuttal. But again that's just my crazy Canadian self again eh blue?
04-09-2009
How about.....Everyone has there own opinions! Just like someone told me my 2007 GP SC fully loaded to the max! with only like 43K miles on it was a WASTE of time to try to mod! I should get something CHEAPER and BETTER! Well I look at this way...you can't have fast,cheap, and reliable! So!!! LOL. If someone wants to dump money into a Honda let em!!! Everyone will knock everything because if everyone agreed this world would be boring!!!
04-09-2009
Jess shut up.
04-09-2009
04-10-2009
Please.
Damn...You sure do have some nerve for a kid that gets everything handed to him huh? Must be nice. Go home until you can come in here with something more than just bashing people.
I was all fine with going back and forth. It is just the internet man, you know how it is. Someone has to win right?
Not that I am making another rebuttal but I am not one to take kindly to threats...kids need to grow up. I think you would understand too.
04-10-2009
LOL, wow this thread went to hell. Blue gives his opinion (much like I did) and all this?!? Kinda funny actully.
I like the "threats" too, wow, i'm scaried.
I hear ya man and i'm with ya. Think of it this way, people who sit behind a computer and make the most threats, don't have a pair to begin with and wouldn't do a damn thing if the situation came up on the street face to face. Know what I mean? Internet threats are pathetic and it shows how big a persons balls really are. Be a man, make a threat in person face to face, not on a ****ing message board.Not that I am making another rebuttal but I am not one to take kindly to threats...kids need to grow up. I think you would understand too.
Wanna threaten me next? I'd like for you to do it with me face to face. I'd be willing to bet you'd puss out on the chance too, especially if you knew me well and know how much of a hot head I can be. I'm not afraid of going to jail. I'm no bad ass, but I don't take **** either.
Ok I had my fun, now lets get this damn thread back on track with less bull****...
04-10-2009
Hondas can be fast just like any car can. Sure they get a bad rap because of teenagers and fart cans, but there are some out there that would give any car on this forum a beat down. A guy I work with has a 400HP sleeper Civic. Looks just like any other piece of trash Civic, but it blows the doors off expensive cars at 10.3 in the 1/4. Keep in mind he also has a 45th anniversary Corvette and a GTO.
It comes down to all this useless bashing. I am not arrogant enough to trash talk all Hondas because I've seen all too well that some of those things can be quick. Still sound like a pissed off weed eater, but quick none the less. Do I want to own one? No. I feel a V6 with a better torque curve (like the 3800) is a much more enjoyable daily driver. But at the track some of those "toys" will beat every 3800 on this forum. Sad, but that's how it is.
04-10-2009
Yep, Any car can be made fast, it just depends how much you wanna spend or in some cases waste.
IMO, a FWD platform being Honda, GPs, whatever is a waste of time to make a 10 sec pass in when it can be done cheaper and easier with something RWD. But there are dedicated people out there.
04-10-2009
Agreed. In no way am I trying to make a track beast. The only reason I'd take it to the track is just to see where I'm at. I want a fun DD. That's all.
04-10-2009
Exactly.
That is what I meant to begin with. Others just took it the wrong way.
It is an age old dispute that will never end IMO.
04-10-2009
i dont know where you get the idea these cars are small? the dimensions are not as large as other cars, but they weigh in excess of 3,000 lbs on the 92-93. they reenforced the bodys from 90-91, and their weight was anywhere from 2,800 to 3,400 for a fully loaded car. i use to have a 93 LS-S (GS-R minus the B17 and ABS) it was a non-v 1.8 and got walked all over by a stock 3.0 DOHC 97 Taurus. not a fast car to begin with by any means.
yes, but the GP is only a 3100.Dawson owns both, so believe it.
when did you get the right to tell somebody to shut up, when you were not really even a part of this to begin with, and are only going after her because she is a girl, and you think she is the least threat. you shut up, and come back when you actually have to earn your way around here. not all of us have the luxury of having parents buy us a 2 year old car, and dealer maintain it. most of us have worked very hard not only to attain our cars, but maintain them, and turn them into the machines they are now.
the way i see it, MOST of the "ricers" around are 15-18 year old kids who got a Honda Civic because their parents bought it for them, because it was cheap and reliable. and they think that throwing a fart can on it, makes them special. i on the other had have had to work for my car. i got it, not running, and have been working virtually nonstop for 7 months on it. now im not saying i can walk all over all of you, or any of you for that matter. my car is big, has almost no low end torque, and is truly under powerd for such a large car. that said, i do know my car will hold its own just fine. but then again, im running with one of the few Honda engines that naturally produces more torque than horse power.
i feel for OP having to listen to all these fart cans running around, i had one on my Integra when i bought it, and it got annoying after about a day, if not sooner. my Legend doesnt have a muffler on it at all right now, and i cant stand it. a nice roar, like any dual exhausted Pontiac is wonderful, but this, hear me coming twenty minutes before i get there, is just silly....
+8,938. this is just my opinion
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