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    The real advantage of the more expensive headers is the larger primaries and the less pain to deal with and install. They all have their problems though. I have TOG Extremes on my car but I got em for a ridiculously low price. If I was going to buy retail I'd probably buy the pacesetters with the ZZP package that gets rid of the bad/prone to fail parts. ZZP APPARENTLY claims that their headers make 20WHP more on the dyno than competitor headers (on a fully built car). I have no idea how they can claim that as it seems excessive.

    I wouldn't get the speed daddies because a few of the parts need to be changed out right away, and its a really stupid design on the sewer pipe (goodbye ground clearance) and because they have smaller primaries. If you're not planning on making max power or going too far with your car and dont mind fabricating a bit im sure they're fine though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Cook View Post
    The real advantage of the more expensive headers is the larger primaries and the less pain to deal with and install. They all have their problems though. I have TOG Extremes on my car but I got em for a ridiculously low price. If I was going to buy retail I'd probably buy the pacesetters with the ZZP package that gets rid of the bad/prone to fail parts. ZZP APPARENTLY claims that their headers make 20WHP more on the dyno than competitor headers (on a fully built car). I have no idea how they can claim that as it seems excessive.

    I wouldn't get the speed daddies because a few of the parts need to be changed out right away, and its a really stupid design on the sewer pipe (goodbye ground clearance) and because they have smaller primaries. If you're not planning on making max power or going too far with your car and dont mind fabricating a bit im sure they're fine though.
    Ya i saw that on the Speed daddies... thats the part i hate since the roads around here suck and i have plans on getting lowering springs which will make them scrape alittle more. The only reason why i was really looking at the ZZP headers is because ive got alllll my other stuff from them and never had any issues at all. except there awful customer service
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe0813 View Post
    Ya i saw that on the Speed daddies... thats the part i hate since the roads around here suck and i have plans on getting lowering springs which will make them scrape alittle more. The only reason why i was really looking at the ZZP headers is because ive got alllll my other stuff from them and never had any issues at all. except there awful customer service
    One of my best friends does support at ZZP, ill let em know you hate it lol. He does get A LOT of stupid questions per day (hes told me some real doozies) so im sure after awhile it gets to ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Cook View Post
    One of my best friends does support at ZZP, ill let em know you hate it lol. He does get A LOT of stupid questions per day (hes told me some real doozies) so im sure after awhile it gets to ya.
    oh im sure they get there share of dumb ass questions. The only thing they need work on is the customer service. im not a big fan of the tech support on a call back basis only.



    Ive just always gone by the "you get what you pay for" and "you buy cheap stuff you get cheap quality"
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