There's actually a dvd someone made about rebuilding the 4T65E. I feel like if I were to just do exactly what he's doing on the dvd, it'll be done right.Originally Posted by Scottydoggs
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09-07-2014
There's actually a dvd someone made about rebuilding the 4T65E. I feel like if I were to just do exactly what he's doing on the dvd, it'll be done right.
09-08-2014
I've never done a GM trans, but I'm automatic and manual trans trained, from the dealership, on a import car line. I did work at a Pontiac dealer and saw what the trans guys went thru. If you know what you're doing you'll probably be ok. However, there are a lot of parts - they have to go together right. And then at the end of the job the valve body should come apart and be cleaned, too. I honestly think it would be a major challenge just to get the trans out of the car if you're trying to do it at home.
09-08-2014
Trying to get it out would be my biggest challenge. I have pretty good memory. When the guy disassembled the trans, it didn't look like too many parts. But it's easier said than done.
And when you say "they have to be together right" what do you mean? I know there are specific torque specs for nuts and bolts and what not but are there certain angles that certain things need to be in? (Like how some engine parts are)
09-08-2014
Transmission is out of these cars in 1.5 hours if you follow my guide in the how to section and don't screw around. Special tools you need to do the pull at home include jack stands and a 4 foot piece of 4x4.
Rebuilding the trans is more involved, but again...not overly hard. Have your valvebody upgraded etc by TEP and you have no worries.
09-08-2014
I always double the amount of time it takes to take something off. I like to take things slow at first, go through all the steps and just make sure everything is being removed safely. For example i sat for ten minutes looking at an electrical connector so i can get it of without breaking it. Eventually I will buy all the special tools there are.
What about a torque wrench? Or is that too obvious to mention?
The guy at Mr. Tire said they don't use torque wrenches often. Even on engine jobs. The only thing that would make me more confident doing some jobs is a torque wrench. I changed my friend's coolant elbows with a small ratchet and two sockets lol. No torque wrench but it scares me when i think about the fact that something can be warped or a bolt may have vibrated out because I tightened it by hand. I did that job MONTHS ago.
09-08-2014
never let mr tire work on your engine lol
torque specs are for a reason. some things just dont need to be torqued, but others should be.
09-08-2014
I don't want to go to ANY mechanic unless it's a friend. When I hear those prices, it makes me want to just do EVERYTHING myself (except things like an alignment or tuning or anything INSIDE the block). They charged $2000 for the cat, outer tie rod, and some bearings. I just think of how much I could do to this car with $2000.
09-08-2014
you could buy another gp with 2 grand lol
you found the right place then. 99% of us refuse to pay a shop unless its stuff you just cant to at home, like an alignment, the only reason its been to any shop since I've owned it.
you'll also want to check if the lim gaskets have been up graded to metal ones yet. look where the lower intake meets the head, if you see a black gasket its plastic, see silver its metal already.
09-08-2014
Easyer said then done
09-08-2014
The more I read in this forum, the more I want to sell this and save for another one in better condition. Not like mine is horrible, but it was treated pretty badly. I'm pretty sure nothing on this car has been upgraded. It just doesn't seem like anyone cared about it. I want to use this car as a project but I don't have money to restore a car lol.
I wish people didn't look at cars as some invincible machine that just does what it does without proper upkeep.
09-08-2014
I had a guy not know how to air up his tire the other day. Some people just don't know **** about cars. So don't have anyone to show them. That's why there are mechanics
09-08-2014
theres a normal list of maint/ failure parts on these cars. any one you buy will be the same. parts wear out, you just bought a used car, so expect to be doing some work.
lim job wont cost you over 100 bucks in parts and fluids. and 3 hours of your time.
get a buffer to that paint, if you click the link in my sig, my 800 dollar pos did a pretty good 180 after some buffing.
09-08-2014
Correct. When I introduced to my friends that I loved cars and wants to really start working on them, they gave me access to do things to their cars. Literally because I know more than they do about cars. Everyone except the previous owner of this GP unfortunately.
I've never had anyone show me anything with cars no matter how much I reached out. I pretty much taught myself what I know about cars. The first job i did was the coolant elbows, second was the thermostat on a 3.4L, third was the starter on a 2.5L Sebring convertible (and oil change).
09-08-2014
Well my friend drives fast (but VERY smooth). I don't know how much that means in terms of deterioration but I would believe the parts would break more easily.
I have a lot of tiny rust spots on my car. Will buffing get rid of that?
Apparently, this is typical.
Ew so ugly
Rear ended?
Minor
Fixable?
09-08-2014
Yeah if u know how to fiber glass that bumper yes its savable. But rust will need a light sanding. it looks like surface rust mostly. All that body work to someone experienced . 2 days tops I would think. I could atleast. A shop might want it longer.
09-08-2014
So I did leave out a few things. However to remove a transmission, you will not need a torque wrench, to rebuild one..I assume you have one. To rebuild one, you'd like to have an engine stand and a bracket that you could make. It's not 100% necessary, guys have done it w/o, but it's so much easier with.
09-08-2014
all that body damage cane be made to look better. new bumper covers, trunk lid, or you can repair the bumper.
i took both my bumpers off fixed em, and repainted them both. spent like a 100 bucks in products for both bumpers.
09-08-2014
I literally only know ONE person who loves cars and works on cars. And he keeps telling me how crappy my GP is, how hard it is to work on, how automatic sports cars are crap, and how i should get a civic because it's easier to work on (I agree with that part) so I don't know if he'll help. I'm on my own but I hope to meet more people in the car world to help me with things like that.
I feel like I can do ANYTHING with the right mentor, tutorial or other learning device. Everything down to crankshafts. I want to make my own body panels one day.
09-08-2014
Good. i'm glad it isn't too bad. Painting one part scares me because idk how to go about matching the colors. Do I have to just look at it and guess what color it is? I know people mix paint and do layers of different colors and all that but I lack the knowledge for bodywork. So I really don't even know what I'm talking about lol
09-08-2014
First off.. a GP is not an actual sportscar, sports bra maybe.. Secondly you have the GT, which is not supercharged. So kicked the crap out of a Civic is easy... start from a light or stop and it'll take him long enough to build torque that you'll never see him again.
The 3800 is one of the worlds easiest and most forgiving motors you can work on. Most of these have never had maintenance done and they still drive darn good at high miles. You won't see many Hondas/Toyotas without a long service record that can boast like that. Fawk.. last week I started my car and ran it for a solid minute or two without any oil in the motor. Plug was on the ground next to the oil change bucket. I've driven that same engine another 500 miles since.
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