I see well like i said before, the "service engine soon" light been coming on and off for about 4 years now and every single time the code comes back that points to "catalytic converter" but i never got it fixed but had already planned to real soon. So anyway I didnt think too much about it...err. i forgot to mention i my post that the light did come on this morning and was on again this afternoon immediately after starting the car, ill edit my post.