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    anyone from long island thats willing to help me with doing the CASE learn with my new tuned pcm. I have no idea how to do it :/
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    i just called the gm dealer and they have no idea what a CASE learn is. I told them It's a crankshaft spark variance learn procedure. and they still have no idea what im talking about.. Any other way i can describe it so they will understand?
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    REFERENCE: P0016 Crankshaft Position - Camshaft Position Correlation (Bank 1 Sensor A) - DTC Code

    P0016 - Crankshaft Position - Camshaft Position Correlation (Bank 1 Sensor A)

    Crankshaft Position - Camshaft Position Correlation (Bank 1 Sensor A)
    What does that mean?

    The crankshaft position sensor (CKP) and Camshaft position sensor (CMP) work in harmony to control the spark/fuel delivery and timing. They both consist of a reluctor, or tone, ring which passes over a magnetic sensor, which generates a voltage, indicating position.

    The crankshaft sensor is part of the primary ignition system and functions as the "trigger". It detects the position of the crankshaft relays that information on to the PCM or the ignition module (depending on the vehicle) to control spark timing. The Camshaft position sensor detects the position of the camshafts and relays the information to the PCM. The PCM uses the CMP signal to identify the beginning of the injector sequence. What ties these two shafts and their sensors together is the timing belt or chain. The cam and crank should be precisely timed together. If the PCM detects that the Crank and Cam signals are out of time by a specific number of degrees, this P0016 code will set.
    Symptoms

    Symptoms of a P0016 will or may include:
    Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) illumination
    The engine may run but with reduced performance
    The engine may crank but not start
    The engine may exhibit a rattle near the harmonic balancer indicating the tone ring is damaged
    The engine may start and run, but poorly
    Causes

    Causes may include:
    Timing chain stretched, or timing belt skipped a tooth due to wear
    Misalignment of timing belt/chain
    Tone ring on crankshaft slipped/broken
    Tone ring on camshaft slipped/broken
    Bad crank sensor
    Bad cam sensor
    Damaged wiring to crank/cam sensor
    Timing belt/chain tensioner damaged
    Possible Solutions
    First, visually inspect the cam and crank sensors and their harnesses for damage. If you notice broken/frayed wires, repair and recheck.
    If you have access to a scope, check the cam and crank patterns. If a pattern is missing, suspect a bad sensor or a slipping tone ring. Remove the cam gear and the crankshaft harmonic balancer and inspect the tone rings for proper alignment and make sure they're not loose or damaged or that they haven't sheared the key that aligns them. If they are properly installed, replace the sensor.
    If the signal appears normal, then check the timing chain/belt for proper alignment. If it's misaligned, check for a damaged tensioner that may have allowed the chain/belt to slip a tooth or several teeth. Also check that the belt/chain isn't stretched. Repair and recheck.

    Other crank sensor codes include P0017, P0018, P0019, P0335, P0336, P0337, P0338, P0339, P0385, P0386, P0387, P0388, and P0389.
    It's a CUMMINS Dodge not a Dodge Cummins
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    basically you need a tech 2 scan tool or a aeroforce gauge.

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