overkill PCM? some advice needed

[asite57]

I wanted a tuned pcm, zzp is out, 3800 proformance doeant have any good options is overkill a good pcm to buy?

[blueguy]

No good options?

Where are you located?

What are you wanting?

[darkhorizon]

stock pcm is all you need.. getting a shelf tuned pcm is not going to get you very much.

Buy a powertuner, flash whatever changes you want in a pcm, then sell the thing for the same price you paid for it.

[asite57]

i dont like the features 3800proformance gives you for the money and im in northern oakland country michigan, i was planning on putting headers on and a 3.6'' pulley and a CAI. i was told running that set up will require a PCM tune to run it safely

[matt5112]

i dont like the features 3800proformance gives you for the money and im in northern oakland country michigan, i was planning on putting headers on and a 3.6'' pulley and a CAI. i was told running that set up will require a PCM tune to run it safely

No, scanning for KR and changing the pulley so that you don't see KR will ensure you can run it safely.

[asite57]

you think ill have KR with a 3.6'' pulley if i run the supporting mods?

[matt5112]

No idea.

Try your current pulley and see what happens.

[asite57]

well i have the stock 3.8 right now but this is all besides the point should i get the overkill PCM?

[matt5112]

If you want to.

[mechguy]

Scan before you change anything.

Install headers.

Scan for KR.-------------\/-----------------------------------------------------------------\/

KKKKNo KR proceed to 3.6" pulley and tune.SSSSSSSSSSSSSSS KR exists.Tune for stock pulley.

KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK\N\/NNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN\/
gggggggggggggggggggg \ ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg /
gggggggggggggggggggggg \ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg /
ggggggggggggggggggggggggg \ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg /
ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg \ ggggggggggggggggggggggggggg /
gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg \ gggggggggggggggggg /
gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg \ ggggggggg /
gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg \ gg /

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb Scan for KR

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm \/

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Any KR exists = must burn with high temperature fire.

[matt5112]

Why use pink?

[dsmuts]

I ran my stock tune on my 3.4 setup before I threw my zzp pcm in and it wasn't to bad. The zzp one feels faster because it makes the car shift at 6K instead of 5.7K or whatever and ups the line pressure in the trans.

[asite57]

how do i scan for KR

[dsmuts]

if you have an android phone you can buy an obd2 to bluetooth adapter and download the torque app or you could buy an aeroforce gauge.

[asite57]

what bluetooth obd2 device do you use?

[ItHurtz]

I have overkill regret it, brandon had over kill for maybe 4hrs haha. Take your chance.

[dsmuts]

I use the elm one i can't remember exactly what it's called but it's the cheap one. I think it was $20 or so.

[matt5112]

I have the PLX BT one.

$80 shipped if you want.

Kiwi Bluetooth - PLX Devices

Then you'd need to buy the torque app from the google play store thing, $5 or so.

[brandonl2000]

I have overkill regret it, brandon had over kill for maybe 4hrs haha. Take your chance.

i have an in-car tune from Nixon that isn't even fine tuned yet...

then i tried the overkill pcm for another reason and it was horrible. slow sloppy acceleration, brought the mush out in my trans, weak pull, lots of KR. meh :/

if you're gonna spend money just have someone tune in your vehicle with you.

[matt5112]

i have an in-car tune from Nixon that isn't even fine tuned yet...

then i tried the overkill pcm for another reason and it was horrible. slow sloppy acceleration, brought the mush out in my trans, weak pull, lots of KR. meh :/

if you're gonna spend money just have someone tune in your vehicle with you.

Yes because you're running an afr in the tens and no timing.