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  1. #1 Removing P0300 misfire code side effects.... 
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    On a project car I am working on, using a 98 Fbody 3800 pcm, me and a friend learned something new about turning off the P0300 random cylinder misfire code. I dont know that this applies to ALL 3800s, but it sure explains a few instances that I have ran into in the past. Apparently - at least with this pcm - when you set P0300 to "No error reported" so the code wont trip it also dissables all visable misfires for each individual cylinder on the scanner. We verified this with using HPTuners scanner and using a GM Tech2 scanner. Once setting the code back to its OE setting it would show misfires as it should.... that is IF you have any! It really makes me wonder how many pcms turning off this code with cammed guys is preventing viewable misfire data. A 97 GTP that I built a new engine for last fall had a bad misfire after a few miles and would never show any misfires with my scan tool or with the HPT scanner no matter the condition such as just sitting at idle or driving down the road. It turned out to be a bad spark plug out of the box and all was well after that but I never understood why I couldnt view misfire data until I learned of this. With HPT there is a check box for SES and as a stock file this is checked and I uncheck boxes for codes I turn off as well as set the option to no error reporting. We tried checking the box with leaving no error reporting and there was still no data. When code P0300 sets the car will not go into closed loop and dissables a few things. Even though the code was turned off, wouldnt set in the history or turn the ses light on, closed loop was still dissabled even commanding it with a Tech2. So for those trying to hunt down a misfire that you know is present but not picking up with a scanner then you may want to try turning the code back on to see what it does. I am very curious as to what years/models this really effects.
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    Chalk me up, and a customer of mine. I had this issue a few months back as well. The engine had a clear multiple misfires just from the feeling of it but I never could get it to register even under WOT. It turned out on both to be a wire laying against the header and shorting out on the #2 cylinder. Quick and easy fix in that case...but it could have been even longer if you couldn't visibly see it.

    I still leave mine turned off for everyday as I don't have the idle raised on my car, but the other guy had his idle raised to 925 which eliminated the SES light for the most part.

    So far your affected years are 2000 & 2002 right here
    You would be surprised at what codes deleted on PCM's would have an effect on driveability. I think Curtis recieved a PCM and had a few issues because his EVAP system was completely disabled. I'm not going to say which company did it either.
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    same here and i have a 98 with the vs cam installed and i have the p0300 code turned off. my ls1m doesnt read misfires per cyl nor revs. i also have my idle at ~740 trans not engaged and ~635 with engaged, or was it the other way around?...lol
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    (Sold)BACK TO M90 Vs cam w/3.5" pulley/meth/25* timing+bolt-ons
    01 Z28 A4 HP-self-tuned, LTs, FTRA, 3600stall 12.3@112mph
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    This probably should be stickied somewhere, really good info. Thanks Trannyman.
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    so wait, this is a 97/98 thing? cause my misfires register and my p0300 code is set to no report since i was cammed at one point. what gives?
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    It might have to do with the settings that make it a hard code or soft code. I think you can set it to register misfires but not set the SES light. I'll have to look into it this weekend if I get time.
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    no tuner here, cant look into anything besides what my car is actually doing. sucks to be you guys. :P
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    With HPT it didnt matter if I left it as no error reports and SES checked on or off, either way it would not display any misfires unless it was set to report after 1 error cycle as it came stock. Glad to hear that this is not just a few year isolated issue but it sure sux because it can make finding problems a royal PITA!
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