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  1. #1 Such a thing as to much timing? 
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    Just making sure on this one, is there such a thing as to much timing to a point where it's not beneficial? Right now I'm at 24*-26* at WOT and not knocking yet lol
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    Yes you can run too much to where the fire line will out run the piston. I would stick to 18-20*.
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    Drop the timing and pulley down...man I need chipped pistons...does that give me a better running car? LOL
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    I think I remember a conversation detailing that anything above 22* WOT is useless. But I read that like... six months ago. In the meantime, I've been rather enjoyed by my beer. So, make of that what you will.

    "I ran up to 22*is timing on my old setup, never ran any better than when the timing was 20*. So I backed it back down to 20 and called it a day." - Reptile
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    It all comes down to spark burn time and piston travel, which you need an ignition scope to figure out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOtherNick View Post
    Yes you can run too much to where the fire line will out run the piston. I would stick to 18-20*.
    Will do, I figured there was no point to go high, I'll bump it down 4* or so

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    Drop the timing and pulley down...man I need chipped pistons...does that give me a better running car? LOL
    Already there lol

    And probably no pulley drop till I get a new motor
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    I don't think he is going to run a smaller pulley since he has chipped pistons Nick
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    who cares? if it's already broken why not run it ragged?
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    Already running ragged lol, don't have the money to purchase a pulley right now, maxing out what I can get out of this 3.6. Whenever I get a new motor it'll be a much better setup believe me.
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    I'd just put the timing down to 20* and buy a new bottom end LOL
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    I'm about to go do that actually. I'm not really scared of breaking anything else really, still runs like a top and does autox as well.
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    AutoX'ing is pretty legit in a boat...I give ya kudos.

    I'd get headers and put a stock pulley on it with a high comp bottom end
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    AutoX'ing is pretty legit in a boat...I give ya kudos.

    I'd get headers and put a stock pulley on it with a high comp bottom end
    How did you know my plans?

    Thinking about going SSIC and see about running this 3.6 on that motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman View Post
    How did you know my plans?

    Thinking about going SSIC and see about running this 3.6 on that motor.

    High compression SSIC and headers you can run a 3.4 Easy. You will want to get 42.5's though
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    IIRC 18-20* is best for a super charged motor and for a NA that the max timing is 20-26* WOT. Also I think that a degree or two can be added if running ethanol but I would not go much higher and only do it if you are running e85 all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01gpgt01 View Post
    High compression SSIC and headers you can run a 3.4 Easy. You will want to get 42.5's though
    If only I could pull that off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Canadian Guy View Post
    If only I could pull that off.
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    I was running 21-23 WOT timing on a 3.4 with slight blips under .3 with a 11.8-12.1 afr
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