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    Trying to use the Torque App in car but the App is saying it can't read from ECM. Any ideas why this would happen?
    1998 GTP (COUPE)-160K - Ram Air hood,CAI,SD Headers, Transgo kit, Scotty tune
    2000 GTP (4DOOR)-140K - Gone 2000 GTP (COUPE) - 300K+- Gone now
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    what adapter did you buy? Will it connect to other cars?
    An engine is an engine no matter the size.... I think Dr. Seuss said that... or maybe it was Big Weld....
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    i have two that i got off ebay. I dont have another car to try it on at this time.
    1998 GTP (COUPE)-160K - Ram Air hood,CAI,SD Headers, Transgo kit, Scotty tune
    2000 GTP (4DOOR)-140K - Gone 2000 GTP (COUPE) - 300K+- Gone now
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuinlanGTP View Post
    i have two that i got off ebay. I dont have another car to try it on at this time.
    I get the same problem with mine with Torque Lite. I got a little blue one for like $5 off ebay, haven't found an app yet that connects to it. My dad got one too and it wont connect to his Infinity QX4 either. So yeah, cheap ones don't work apparently.
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    This is the ONLY cheap one that I would get...

    https://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products...eywords=elm327

    I have this one and I have the OBDLink MX. THAT THING ROCKS! Buts its like 100 bucks...
    1998 GTP Coupe: Self-tuned with HPTuners, 3.4, FWI w/ 12 inch K&N, Autolite 103's, hot-wired FP, Caspers fan override, 180 t-stat, Speed Daddy headers, SLP exhaust w/ GTX tips, 12 inch brakes (Riviera/Impala), 6000K HID's, solid rubber engine and trans mounts, poly dogbone inserts (SOLD 3/2020!!! )
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    ^ the BAFX is the one that people seem to have the best luck with. I know that's what worked for me.
    An engine is an engine no matter the size.... I think Dr. Seuss said that... or maybe it was Big Weld....
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    Quote Originally Posted by J57ltr View Post
    ^ the BAFX is the one that people seem to have the best luck with. I know that's what worked for me.
    Ive had mine for 4 years and never had a single issue. The OBDLink MX is WAY FASTER than the BAFX tho. But If I need super high speed scanning, I use HPT. LOL! But yeah, the BAFX stays in the GTP and the OBDLink MX stays in the G8.

    Also, DashCommand works well woth the BAFX unit. Torque works very well but if you need to see some PIDs that Torque doesnt support, DashCommand will more than likely support them. If not, you can buy the plugins for that particular year of car. I bought the 1998 GM plugin and the 2009 GM plugin (GTP and G8).
    1998 GTP Coupe: Self-tuned with HPTuners, 3.4, FWI w/ 12 inch K&N, Autolite 103's, hot-wired FP, Caspers fan override, 180 t-stat, Speed Daddy headers, SLP exhaust w/ GTX tips, 12 inch brakes (Riviera/Impala), 6000K HID's, solid rubber engine and trans mounts, poly dogbone inserts (SOLD 3/2020!!! )
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    Well that's the thing I don't know how anyone claims one is faster than another. Even HPT and DHP are limited to how quickly the data comes out of the PCM which is every .173 second (173ms) so in reality they are all only able to scan at a rate of 4-5 per second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J57ltr View Post
    Well that's the thing I don't know how anyone claims one is faster than another. Even HPT and DHP are limited to how quickly the data comes out of the PCM which is every .173 second (173ms) so in reality they are all only able to scan at a rate of 4-5 per second.

    Jeff
    HPT is definitely faster than ELM327 and Torque any day of the week. Especially when youre scanning multiple PIDs. And HPT 3.2 is faster than 2.24...
    1998 GTP Coupe: Self-tuned with HPTuners, 3.4, FWI w/ 12 inch K&N, Autolite 103's, hot-wired FP, Caspers fan override, 180 t-stat, Speed Daddy headers, SLP exhaust w/ GTX tips, 12 inch brakes (Riviera/Impala), 6000K HID's, solid rubber engine and trans mounts, poly dogbone inserts (SOLD 3/2020!!! )
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    I have tried the cheap adapters on ebay and Amazon. Had problems with no connecting, dropping signal, Bluetooth not connecting, etc. They suck. I run the OBD LX and it rocks. Cheaper then the MX. Runs $50.
    04 GP GT- top swap, VS cam, 2.8 pulley, E85, headers, 60 injectors, TEP 3:29 trans, Racelogic Traction Control, ZZP dyno tuned.
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    ^^^Good stuff!!!
    1998 GTP Coupe: Self-tuned with HPTuners, 3.4, FWI w/ 12 inch K&N, Autolite 103's, hot-wired FP, Caspers fan override, 180 t-stat, Speed Daddy headers, SLP exhaust w/ GTX tips, 12 inch brakes (Riviera/Impala), 6000K HID's, solid rubber engine and trans mounts, poly dogbone inserts (SOLD 3/2020!!! )
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    I have this one. All those little blue ones that look similar seem like they're clones all over amazon/ebay - https://www.amazon.com/Veepeak-Bluet...ZWVT5TM0Q60ANH


    It connects and works ok. The polling is slow, imo. Torque's intervals are set to the lowest, but using more than one PID causes significant delay for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydubb71 View Post
    HPT is definitely faster than ELM327 and Torque any day of the week. Especially when youre scanning multiple PIDs. And HPT 3.2 is faster than 2.24...
    Post up a scan and lets see. How many lines do you get per second? The limiting factor doesn't seem to be the program or the computer at all, it's the PCM that is the limiting factor. Since it will only output data every 173 ms. Even 04+ cars are this slow.
    An engine is an engine no matter the size.... I think Dr. Seuss said that... or maybe it was Big Weld....
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    dhp and t app both feed me the same info. ive tuned my pcm with out a scan, just watching the t app.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Did you change your MAF over to Hz Scotty? That makes things easier.

    Jeff
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    maf KPA my man, and the fuel trims. how i tuned my injectors in. im on a 100% stock maf file.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Maf kPa? My torque reads in G's/Second and CFM. There's a formula that you can input in the custom PID that allows you to use Maf Hz. I found that it's easier for me to correlate where I had an issue. I used the stock table but it was too rich. I probably could have changed the IFR but I like to keep it the same for changed just for E85 or injector size.
    An engine is an engine no matter the size.... I think Dr. Seuss said that... or maybe it was Big Weld....
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    i didnt tune the maf. maf kpa lines up with injector kpa. and the ltft dictates the changes.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    gotcha
    An engine is an engine no matter the size.... I think Dr. Seuss said that... or maybe it was Big Weld....
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    This is the second scanner i got off ebay i thought maybe it was the scanner but everything seems to find eerything in the torque program like hooking up by Bluetooth but it had a issues getting connected to the ECM. Or at least thats what the app tells me.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBDII-Scanne..._id=5000006560
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