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  1. #1 Trying to decide Overkill or ZZP tuning 
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    I'm trying to decide on tuning here which will be better for a 2003 N/A grand prix. future mods are power log, 3in dp, tb spacer, and tuning. just need input on which is going to be the best tuning for the buck. Thanks in advance
    Girlfriend's ride: 03 Summit White Grand Prix GT 180* T-stat, Autolites, Bosch wires, Custom CAI
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  2. #2 Re: Trying to decide Overkill or ZZP tuning 
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    TB spacer...lol, skip that.

    Buy a PCM from 3800Performance.

    It's a DHP...done and done.
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    Wouldn't you want headers and a HV3 for a N/A
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    500 is my set spending limit so thats my simple recipe
    Girlfriend's ride: 03 Summit White Grand Prix GT 180* T-stat, Autolites, Bosch wires, Custom CAI
    My Rides: 2006 LBZ CCSB LT3 Duramax Diesel Puller/DD
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    Definitely headers not dp and all that

    TB spacers are waste of money
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/my-06-gp-gxp-72403.html
    OBX headers, TEP tranny cooler, ls1 IM fuel rails and injectors, ls2 TB, ls7 MAF, full custom exhaust, Quad retro headlights, full out front and rear suspension work, tuned by HPT by me 8====>

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    Quote Originally Posted by marines542 View Post
    Definitely headers not dp and all that

    TB spacers are waste of money
    His n/a so unless he wants to lose some low end torque a plog and downpipe is good enough for him.
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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  7. #7 Re: Trying to decide Overkill or ZZP tuning 
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    How are spacers a waste of money? cool sound and a tiny bit more air every little bit helps IMHO. Still up in the air on tuning here?
    Girlfriend's ride: 03 Summit White Grand Prix GT 180* T-stat, Autolites, Bosch wires, Custom CAI
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    Turbo is the way to go. REDCRAPGP's Avatar
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    I like my overkill tune
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    Have you ever tried any other tuning? If so how would rate them on a scale of 1-10
    Girlfriend's ride: 03 Summit White Grand Prix GT 180* T-stat, Autolites, Bosch wires, Custom CAI
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    I purchased a Zzp PCM way back when I first got the car I was not a fan seemed to cause more knock then the stock PCM. Down the road added more mods and went the overkill route could not be any happier..it killed a lot of knock I was getting. The trans shift points were firmer. I rate it a 10 I will in the upcoming months will be making a drive to have a local adjust it for cam and getting my a/f were it needs to be instead of sending it back for a retune.

    A few guys seem to have problems with Zzp tunes lately. Only downfall to overkill is it takes time to get in contact with him and since he's in Canada shipping takes time.
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  11. #11 Re: Trying to decide Overkill or ZZP tuning 
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    Ok one last Q is the 185* fan on offered by overkill like the competitors noticed it doesn't say any where on the site.
    Girlfriend's ride: 03 Summit White Grand Prix GT 180* T-stat, Autolites, Bosch wires, Custom CAI
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  12. #12 Re: Trying to decide Overkill or ZZP tuning 
    Turbo is the way to go. REDCRAPGP's Avatar
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    Sure is
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    Has anyone gotten a tune from intense racing?
    1999 gtp coupe... P&P heads, lim, and sc, comp vs cam, intake, dp and ubend
    2003 ford ranger fx4 level II- twin stick
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  14. #14 Re: Trying to decide Overkill or ZZP tuning 
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    Intense was known to blow up your tranny.
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
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    A tb spacer is a waste because it doesn't make you flow more air and is a possibility for a coolant and vacuum leak.
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    Ok good deal see if I can swing the good winter deal he has going
    Girlfriend's ride: 03 Summit White Grand Prix GT 180* T-stat, Autolites, Bosch wires, Custom CAI
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    Hey guy, why did you make 2 threads about the same topic?

    http://www.grandprixforums.net/need-...ods-74241.html


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    Is there a difference in price between the two?
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  19. #19 Re: Trying to decide Overkill or ZZP tuning 
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    depends on what you want done
    dhp tune, sd lip, shiny stuffs, retros, gen 2 spoiler, gpo's, pregens
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/showthread.php?t=75198
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    The PCM won't be worth the investment. I had one. Returned it shortly thereafter.

    Only thing I noticed were different shift points.

    TB spacer will be equally pointless.
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