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  1. #1 How much of a gain? 
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    Im ordering a zzp P-log and 3in shorty dp from WBS this weekend ( feels great to order parts and the wife's ok with it lol), and doing a U-bend delete as well since im already welding the dp on. With these 3 mods, what hp gains should I expect?
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    Nothing noticeable, they're supporting mods more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Wolf View Post
    Nothing noticeable, they're supporting mods more than anything.
    At least its going to help with some KR im sure...onward down the 3.4 pulley path i go lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boger's99GTP View Post
    At least its going to help with some KR im sure...onward down the 3.4 pulley path i go lol
    Oh yeah, no doubt it's going to kill off some KR. Thats what they're for, you open up the ability for you to get more horsepower.

    And by the way, with these...

    Homemade FWI,180* Thermostat,Autolite 104's,manual fan switch
    Plus the p-log and the downpipe. You should be good for that 3.4 pulley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Wolf View Post
    Oh yeah, no doubt it's going to kill off some KR. Thats what they're for, you open up the ability for you to get more horsepower.

    And by the way, with these...



    Plus the p-log and the downpipe. You should be good for that 3.4 pulley.
    Wouldnt it be a good investment to get the PCM before the 3.4? Of course scanning will come before the pulley.
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    Yeah you will certianly want something to scan with before you go too far with the mods. It's up to you whether or not you want the pulley or the PCM first. Is'nt going to really matter either way.
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    i would get a tune to go with the pulley. make everything work together better.
    white 04 comg G gtp. wizair, pacesetters, slp 1.8 rr
    its slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfishRus6 View Post
    i would get a tune to go with the pulley. make everything work together better.
    Tune has nothing to do with the pulley. The only thing his PCM is going to really help him with considering his current mods is his shifts points, and the 40mph lag, also the thermostat can be programmed in there as well.
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    Boost control tuning*
    Allows proper boost at high speed runs and maximum fuel economy
    Fuel control tuning*
    Proprietarily fueling individual cylinders, controlling burst KR from quick throttle inputs, reducing KR during extended full throttle runs, and programming the engine to run at an optimal air/fuel ratio.
    Spark control tuning*
    Increasing the PCM's response time to hazardous knock, reducing spark retard quicker after it is no longer needed, decreasing timing in high load/low rpm zones for safety, increasing timing for better fuel mileage at part throttle and increasing timing advance to the mid-upper teens at full throttle for maximum performance.
    Fan control tuning*
    turns on the engine cooling fans for 180 thermostat settings, runs the fans at low speeds in slow city driving for better cooling, allows 3 minute fan operation at high coolant temperatures after the key is turned off
    Transmission shift remapping*
    increases the shift firmness and time without adding harshness, allows the transmission to downshift to a lower gear more easily when required, allows redline up-shifts at full throttle in performance shift mode, greatly reduces the bogging around town and on the highway at light throttle, extends the life of your transmission!
    Abuse modes refined*
    disabling injector turn-offs which cuts fuel to random cylinders and revising dangerously lean air fuel ratios that aim to reduce engine power, that could be hazardous. Torque management is retained for transmission upshifts, to reduce engine power and allow the transmission to shift more easily and more quickly.
    DTCs are selectively disabled
    codes that pertain to the rear O2 sensor that can be set with use of an aftermarket high flowing catalytic converter, codes that pertain to the installation of a lower than factory temperature thermostat, codes that pertain to the EGR system for optional disabling.
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    Finally, your PCM is not an off-the-shelf tune, ever! We have tuned hundreds of different vehicle calibrations, and understand what is required to make the best calibration for different modifications. Each custom calibration is done as part of the standard pricing, you won't pay extra for simple changes, simply provide us with a modification list and you will be shipped a custom calibration based on the anticipated needs of your unique setup.



    mine as well make the best of what you have..
    white 04 comg G gtp. wizair, pacesetters, slp 1.8 rr
    its slow.
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    I'd get headers over a P-log and a shorty personally. At least with a set of headers you'll elimanate all the restrictions, notice a way better improvement, and eliminate wasting money and having to do headers later on like most PEM guys end up doing.
    Shawn W. Larsen

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfishRus6 View Post
    Boost control tuning*
    Allows proper boost at high speed runs and maximum fuel economy
    When im running full throttle/all out, fuel economy is really part of my concern lol
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    ha true
    white 04 comg G gtp. wizair, pacesetters, slp 1.8 rr
    its slow.
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